CBS Sports has Furman and UNCG in the latest 68 team Bracketology. Last 4 In

[PaladinPower]

There is no way UNCG gets in without putting in their best wins (Furman 2x). It is either both or neither if I had to bet.. and I doubt it’s both....

[Paladin91]

There is no way UNCG gets in without putting in their best wins (Furman 2x). It is either both or neither if I had to bet.. and I doubt it’s both....

UNCG at least has a resume, they were in the big dance last year. Better conference record than FU. They will take UNCG before FU.

[PaladinPower]

Resume? Who did they beat? Furman. That is their best win. Furman has the best win of all mid majors on the bubble. Especially if Nova wins their tourney.

[PaladinPower]

Disclaimer: I think they are both more worthy than many other P5 bubble teams. I just don’t see how they can clearly pick either UNCG or Furman with confidence. So they’ll can both.

[Paladin91]

Resume? Who did they beat? Furman. That is their best win. Furman has the best win of all mid majors on the bubble. Especially if Nova wins their tourney.

You really think they are going to look at Furman's wins against Villanova and Loyola, which occurred back in November (4 months ago). Or do you think they're going to more heavily look at who won head to head against each other more recently? I would bet on the latter.

[Paladin91]

Disclaimer: I think they are both more worthy than many other P5 bubble teams. I just don’t see how they can clearly pick either UNCG or Furman with confidence. So they’ll can both.

You may be right here - they'll put in a bigger school like Ohio St. that can bring fans, especially after our pathetic fan showing in Asheville.

[PaladinPower]

I think wins matter. Furman has the best one. And if UNCG is in the discussion, their best win should be also in the discussion (Furman). They also lost on a neutral court by 4 with their best player injured. Can’t have one without the other. Furman also top 45 in off and def efficiency since February. This team wasn’t just good in November...They are still good...top 68 in the nation good...

[Paladin91]

I think wins matter. Furman has the best one. And if UNCG is in the discussion, their best win should be also in the discussion (Furman). They also lost on a neutral court by 4 with their best player injured. Can’t have one without the other. Furman also top 45 in off and def efficiency since February. This team wasn’t just good in November...They are still good...top 68 in the nation good...

I don't think you can look at just wins - you have to look at losses too.
UNCG had 6 losses - Wofford x 3 (likely 6 seed), Kentucky (2 or 1 seed), LSU (2 or 1 seed), Furman (bubble)
FU had 7 losses - UNCG x 2 (bubble), Wofford x2 (likely 6 seed), LSU (2 or 1 seed), ETSU, Samford
FU's losses to ETSU and Samford stick out. UNCG played LSU closer than FU as well.

[PaladinPower]

Of course they have to look at losses, too. Also RPi, NET, ken Pom. Efficiency. Furman lost to Wofford by 13 points and G lost by 60 in two games. All I am saying is - it’s either both or neither. Most likely neither.

[DungeonRealm]

I think wins matter. Furman has the best one. And if UNCG is in the discussion, their best win should be also in the discussion (Furman). They also lost on a neutral court by 4 with their best player injured. Can’t have one without the other. Furman also top 45 in off and def efficiency since February. This team wasn’t just good in November...They are still good...top 68 in the nation good...

I don't think you can look at just wins - you have to look at losses too.
UNCG had 6 losses - Wofford x 3 (likely 6 seed), Kentucky (2 or 1 seed), LSU (2 or 1 seed), Furman (bubble)
FU had 7 losses - UNCG x 2 (bubble), Wofford x2 (likely 6 seed), LSU (2 or 1 seed), ETSU, Samford
FU's losses to ETSU and Samford stick out. UNCG played LSU closer than FU as well.

Yeah, don't highlight the LSU score difference and not bring up the Wofford score difference, UNCG got super creamed by Wofford twice and we almost beat Wofford twice, you should bring that up as well

[Fessor]

Rule #1: Head-to-head trumps all else, unless some extenuating circumstance.

Was Rafferty's injury an extenuating circumstance? I think that's the argument Furman has to make. Otherwise, you lost two of three in head-to-head with UNCG.

[DungeonRealm]

Rule #1: Head-to-head trumps all else, unless some extenuating circumstance.

Was Rafferty's injury an extenuating circumstance? I think that's the argument Furman has to make. Otherwise, you lost two of three in head-to-head with UNCG.

I think it could be considered that

But we certainly get more OOC bonus points than UNCG with our Nova win, that's why our NET is still so good, and even more so if Nova goes on to win the Big East

[soconjohn]

We play a full season...We don't have a preseason...all or nothing

[soconjohn]

UNCG has no quad 1 wins whatsoever without Furman's non conference performance...It's not fathomable they could take UNCG over Furman...They have to take both!!!

[soconjohn]

Fessor, that doesn't matter...You think they weigh UNCG's wins over us more than our win at Nova...Without road win at Nova, UNCG has no case...simple logic