I would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
fufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:00 pmI would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
However, in my opinion it's not crazy to imagine that a Furman team that wins the final two regular season games, wins in the quarters and semis and loses close in the finals to Wofford, UNCG or ETSU wouldn't at least be in contention for a final at-large spot. Would be 25-7, have at least one Quad 1 win, a handful of Quad 2 wins, road losses to LSU, ETSU, UNCG and Wofford and home losses to Wofford and Samford in addition to a neutral site title game loss. In this scenario we get revenge on Samford (maybe twice in a week) and then get another solid win in semis barring any major upsets. With how strong the SoCon is this year, that's not a terrible resume. Again, I think it's a stretch, but worth mentioning.
What are your talking about? It’s our strong OOC slate that is keeping us in the national discussion. I will admit that we need to stop scheduling the lower division teams.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:00 pmI would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
However, in my opinion it's not crazy to imagine that a Furman team that wins the final two regular season games, wins in the quarters and semis and loses close in the finals to Wofford, UNCG or ETSU wouldn't at least be in contention for a final at-large spot. Would be 25-7, have at least one Quad 1 win, a handful of Quad 2 wins, road losses to LSU, ETSU, UNCG and Wofford and home losses to Wofford and Samford in addition to a neutral site title game loss. In this scenario we get revenge on Samford (maybe twice in a week) and then get another solid win in semis barring any major upsets. With how strong the SoCon is this year, that's not a terrible resume. Again, I think it's a stretch, but worth mentioning.
We would be 26-7
But I don't see them taking a 7 loss SoCon team that most everyone in the national scene feels played a weak OOC slate
If we don't win the Tourney ill be happy with NIT though
gman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 pmWhat are your talking about? It’s our strong OOC slate that is keeping us in the national discussion. I will admit that we need to stop scheduling the lower division teams.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:00 pmI would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
However, in my opinion it's not crazy to imagine that a Furman team that wins the final two regular season games, wins in the quarters and semis and loses close in the finals to Wofford, UNCG or ETSU wouldn't at least be in contention for a final at-large spot. Would be 25-7, have at least one Quad 1 win, a handful of Quad 2 wins, road losses to LSU, ETSU, UNCG and Wofford and home losses to Wofford and Samford in addition to a neutral site title game loss. In this scenario we get revenge on Samford (maybe twice in a week) and then get another solid win in semis barring any major upsets. With how strong the SoCon is this year, that's not a terrible resume. Again, I think it's a stretch, but worth mentioning.
We would be 26-7
But I don't see them taking a 7 loss SoCon team that most everyone in the national scene feels played a weak OOC slate
If we don't win the Tourney ill be happy with NIT though
All I’m saying is, our OOC schedule has not been part of the national discussion. Sagarin means absolutely nothing. It’s the NET that counts. The last time I checked, we remain in the top 50. At least you aren’t blaming our demise on floppers and referees.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:22 pmgman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 pmWhat are your talking about? It’s our strong OOC slate that is keeping us in the national discussion. I will admit that we need to stop scheduling the lower division teams.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:00 pmI would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
However, in my opinion it's not crazy to imagine that a Furman team that wins the final two regular season games, wins in the quarters and semis and loses close in the finals to Wofford, UNCG or ETSU wouldn't at least be in contention for a final at-large spot. Would be 25-7, have at least one Quad 1 win, a handful of Quad 2 wins, road losses to LSU, ETSU, UNCG and Wofford and home losses to Wofford and Samford in addition to a neutral site title game loss. In this scenario we get revenge on Samford (maybe twice in a week) and then get another solid win in semis barring any major upsets. With how strong the SoCon is this year, that's not a terrible resume. Again, I think it's a stretch, but worth mentioning.
We would be 26-7
But I don't see them taking a 7 loss SoCon team that most everyone in the national scene feels played a weak OOC slate
If we don't win the Tourney ill be happy with NIT though
Have you been paying attention?
Check out our Sagarin strength of schedule
Subtract our 3 lower division wins from our record
We have D-1 wins against 5 bad D-1 teams
Our good wins are taking major hits, Nova is in a free fall and Loyola is too
Of course it has, its the reason everyone questioned us being ranked in the first placegman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:35 pmAll I’m saying is, our OOC schedule has not been part of the national discussion. Sagarin means absolutely nothing. It’s the NET that counts. The last time I checked, we remain in the top 50.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:22 pmgman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 pmWhat are your talking about? It’s our strong OOC slate that is keeping us in the national discussion. I will admit that we need to stop scheduling the lower division teams.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:00 pmI would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
However, in my opinion it's not crazy to imagine that a Furman team that wins the final two regular season games, wins in the quarters and semis and loses close in the finals to Wofford, UNCG or ETSU wouldn't at least be in contention for a final at-large spot. Would be 25-7, have at least one Quad 1 win, a handful of Quad 2 wins, road losses to LSU, ETSU, UNCG and Wofford and home losses to Wofford and Samford in addition to a neutral site title game loss. In this scenario we get revenge on Samford (maybe twice in a week) and then get another solid win in semis barring any major upsets. With how strong the SoCon is this year, that's not a terrible resume. Again, I think it's a stretch, but worth mentioning.
We would be 26-7
But I don't see them taking a 7 loss SoCon team that most everyone in the national scene feels played a weak OOC slate
If we don't win the Tourney ill be happy with NIT though
Have you been paying attention?
Check out our Sagarin strength of schedule
Subtract our 3 lower division wins from our record
We have D-1 wins against 5 bad D-1 teams
Our good wins are taking major hits, Nova is in a free fall and Loyola is too
Who is this “everyone” and “national scene” you keep referring to?DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:40 pmOf course it has, its the reason everyone questioned us being ranked in the first placegman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:35 pmAll I’m saying is, our OOC schedule has not been part of the national discussion. Sagarin means absolutely nothing. It’s the NET that counts. The last time I checked, we remain in the top 50.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:22 pmgman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 pmWhat are your talking about? It’s our strong OOC slate that is keeping us in the national discussion. I will admit that we need to stop scheduling the lower division teams.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:00 pmI would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
However, in my opinion it's not crazy to imagine that a Furman team that wins the final two regular season games, wins in the quarters and semis and loses close in the finals to Wofford, UNCG or ETSU wouldn't at least be in contention for a final at-large spot. Would be 25-7, have at least one Quad 1 win, a handful of Quad 2 wins, road losses to LSU, ETSU, UNCG and Wofford and home losses to Wofford and Samford in addition to a neutral site title game loss. In this scenario we get revenge on Samford (maybe twice in a week) and then get another solid win in semis barring any major upsets. With how strong the SoCon is this year, that's not a terrible resume. Again, I think it's a stretch, but worth mentioning.
We would be 26-7
But I don't see them taking a 7 loss SoCon team that most everyone in the national scene feels played a weak OOC slate
If we don't win the Tourney ill be happy with NIT though
Have you been paying attention?
Check out our Sagarin strength of schedule
Subtract our 3 lower division wins from our record
We have D-1 wins against 5 bad D-1 teams
Our good wins are taking major hits, Nova is in a free fall and Loyola is too
We have 1 good win OOC, and its no longer an elite win (just a good win)(Nova)
We played 1 other good team OOC (LSU) and we lost by 18
You'll need to take that up with the league office. Everyone in the SoCon plays (at least) three games against lower opponents. My understanding is this is a league agreement. Wofford played 3 lower tier teams and beat them by 59, 51, and 54 respectively. This is offset by their scheduling SIX games against power conferences...we scheduled two. What really need are better opponents to replace the likes of UNCA, USC Upstate, UNCW, Chas Southern.gman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 pmWhat are your talking about? It’s our strong OOC slate that is keeping us in the national discussion. I will admit that we need to stop scheduling the lower division teams.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:00 pmI would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
However, in my opinion it's not crazy to imagine that a Furman team that wins the final two regular season games, wins in the quarters and semis and loses close in the finals to Wofford, UNCG or ETSU wouldn't at least be in contention for a final at-large spot. Would be 25-7, have at least one Quad 1 win, a handful of Quad 2 wins, road losses to LSU, ETSU, UNCG and Wofford and home losses to Wofford and Samford in addition to a neutral site title game loss. In this scenario we get revenge on Samford (maybe twice in a week) and then get another solid win in semis barring any major upsets. With how strong the SoCon is this year, that's not a terrible resume. Again, I think it's a stretch, but worth mentioning.
We would be 26-7
But I don't see them taking a 7 loss SoCon team that most everyone in the national scene feels played a weak OOC slate
If we don't win the Tourney ill be happy with NIT though
I’m referring to teams like Bob Jones and North Greenville.MNORM wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:43 pmYou'll need to take that up with the league office. Everyone in the SoCon plays (at least) three games against lower opponents. My understanding is this is a league agreement. Wofford played 3 lower tier teams and beat them by 59, 51, and 54 respectively. This is offset by their scheduling SIX games against power conferences...we scheduled two. What really need are better opponents to replace the likes of UNCA, USC Upstate, UNCW, Chas Southern.gman wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:05 pmWhat are your talking about? It’s our strong OOC slate that is keeping us in the national discussion. I will admit that we need to stop scheduling the lower division teams.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:07 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:00 pmI would agree with your assessment, I think we are playing to secure an NIT bid at this point as we head into the SoCon Tourney. Would have to think we are an incredibly strong candidate for that tourney.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:46 pmESPN says FU is still a possible at large despite the WC loss with "work to do". I'm not buying it but I hope they are right.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basket ... oblem-2019
However, in my opinion it's not crazy to imagine that a Furman team that wins the final two regular season games, wins in the quarters and semis and loses close in the finals to Wofford, UNCG or ETSU wouldn't at least be in contention for a final at-large spot. Would be 25-7, have at least one Quad 1 win, a handful of Quad 2 wins, road losses to LSU, ETSU, UNCG and Wofford and home losses to Wofford and Samford in addition to a neutral site title game loss. In this scenario we get revenge on Samford (maybe twice in a week) and then get another solid win in semis barring any major upsets. With how strong the SoCon is this year, that's not a terrible resume. Again, I think it's a stretch, but worth mentioning.
We would be 26-7
But I don't see them taking a 7 loss SoCon team that most everyone in the national scene feels played a weak OOC slate
If we don't win the Tourney ill be happy with NIT though
The fact is, our OOC schedule has not hurt us so far.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:45 pmgman you are just arguing to argue dude, I am pointing out the facts about our OOC, you can believe it or not that's up to you
