What's wrong with Williams?

[PacoTisdale]

Not worth burning RS for a game or two. Especially when they’ve probably not been as well prepared as not been in the rotation.

I see your point and know that RS stuff is fashionable these days. What is it they are supposed to be learning while redshirting? A system? Basketball is basketball. Too much is made about “systems and schemes”. These guys are scholarship players in college now. Most of them were all someplace or other in high school. They don’t have to learn how to dribble, pass, shoot etc at this stage of the game. Put the damned ball in the basket, bust your ass on the boards and live in the jock of the guy you’re guarding and you win games. Simple. If a kid can play, he can play as a freshman and he sure as hell is showing that in practice. We were barely able to put 7 men on the court tonight. That is terrible.

Disagree with basically everything said here. #1 our offense does take awhile to get accustomed to. A lot of the concepts are completely foreign to kids coming out of high school. #2 a big part of redshirting is the physical component and getting them a body that is ready for the college game. #3 sometimes there are just not enough minutes to go around so there’s no point wasting a scholarship year to have excess people in your rotation. In the current scenario do you really think it’s worth wasting a whole year of their Eligibility after wasting half the year not playing, just to have a deeper bench for a few games? #4 sometimes I feel like people on this website completely ignore the way this program has been successful. We rely on development. Maybe this year we haven’t seen the improvement from players as we have in the past but overall our system is a blueprint for success. Redshirting has been a HUGE part of this development. Clay mounce, Noah Gurley, Marcus Foster, all redshirted. Noah was not at all ready to play his freshman year, cut to a couple years later and he’s starting on an SEC team. I’ll take Richey’s way of doing it vs telling them to “Put the damned ball in the basket, bust your ass on the boards and live in the jock of the guy you’re guarding”.

[Dins&Heels]

Not worth burning RS for a game or two. Especially when they’ve probably not been as well prepared as not been in the rotation.

I see your point and know that RS stuff is fashionable these days. What is it they are supposed to be learning while redshirting? A system? Basketball is basketball. Too much is made about “systems and schemes”. These guys are scholarship players in college now. Most of them were all someplace or other in high school. They don’t have to learn how to dribble, pass, shoot etc at this stage of the game. Put the damned ball in the basket, bust your ass on the boards and live in the jock of the guy you’re guarding and you win games. Simple. If a kid can play, he can play as a freshman and he sure as hell is showing that in practice. We were barely able to put 7 men on the court tonight. That is terrible.

Disagree with basically everything said here. #1 our offense does take awhile to get accustomed to. A lot of the concepts are completely foreign to kids coming out of high school. #2 a big part of redshirting is the physical component and getting them a body that is ready for the college game. #3 sometimes there are just not enough minutes to go around so there’s no point wasting a scholarship year to have excess people in your rotation. In the current scenario do you really think it’s worth wasting a whole year of their Eligibility after wasting half the year not playing, just to have a deeper bench for a few games? #4 sometimes I feel like people on this website completely ignore the way this program has been successful. We rely on development. Maybe this year we haven’t seen the improvement from players as we have in the past but overall our system is a blueprint for success. Redshirting has been a HUGE part of this development. Clay mounce, Noah Gurley, Marcus Foster, all redshirted. Noah was not at all ready to play his freshman year, cut to a couple years later and he’s starting on an SEC team. I’ll take Richey’s way of doing it vs telling them to “Put the damned ball in the basket, bust your ass on the boards and live in the jock of the guy you’re guarding”.

I agree, it’s been working for our program and I’m sure even our top recruits are well-aware there’s a good chance they’ll be redshirting. That being said, next year’s team will be just as deep so hopefully we can retain.

[Paul C]

Ok so now we’ve established our recruiting class last year was a bust haha. Remember how bad Slaw and Bothwell were as Freshman? Gawd, yall.

As far as Roundball’s question about does RS make sense now with the more liberal transfer rules, I would say yes. Part of it’s due to the teamwork required to play effectively in our system. It takes time. And will we lose some transfers ? Sure. But will we be able to keep some guys for 5 years that will be 10x the player in year 5 than they were in year 1? Absolutely.

[Jasper]

Not worth burning RS for a game or two. Especially when they’ve probably not been as well prepared as not been in the rotation.

I see your point and know that RS stuff is fashionable these days. What is it they are supposed to be learning while redshirting? A system? Basketball is basketball. Too much is made about “systems and schemes”. These guys are scholarship players in college now. Most of them were all someplace or other in high school. They don’t have to learn how to dribble, pass, shoot etc at this stage of the game. Put the damned ball in the basket, bust your ass on the boards and live in the jock of the guy you’re guarding and you win games. Simple. If a kid can play, he can play as a freshman and he sure as hell is showing that in practice. We were barely able to put 7 men on the court tonight. That is terrible.

Disagree with basically everything said here. #1 our offense does take awhile to get accustomed to. A lot of the concepts are completely foreign to kids coming out of high school. #2 a big part of redshirting is the physical component and getting them a body that is ready for the college game. #3 sometimes there are just not enough minutes to go around so there’s no point wasting a scholarship year to have excess people in your rotation. In the current scenario do you really think it’s worth wasting a whole year of their Eligibility after wasting half the year not playing, just to have a deeper bench for a few games? #4 sometimes I feel like people on this website completely ignore the way this program has been successful. We rely on development. Maybe this year we haven’t seen the improvement from players as we have in the past but overall our system is a blueprint for success. Redshirting has been a HUGE part of this development. Clay mounce, Noah Gurley, Marcus Foster, all redshirted. Noah was not at all ready to play his freshman year, cut to a couple years later and he’s starting on an SEC team. I’ll take Richey’s way of doing it vs telling them to “Put the damned ball in the basket, bust your ass on the boards and live in the jock of the guy you’re guarding”.

And I totally disagree with all the trendy nonsense you are spouting about “systems” et all. You put a Shammgod Wells type player on this team and they run away with the league. He don’t know didly about systems but he makes everyone on the team better because he knows what to do with the rock. There is no system that is going to teach a man to make some
3’s, shoot 80% from the line or scrape the boards. FU simply does not have enough people who can do those things right now so they get beat by Anderson. Weight programs? I have seen too many great college players without a muscle in their body succeed as freshmen to buy that. Enjoy the rest of the season. When a few playahs get back thru will win a few. League is weak this year.

[apaladin]

Some try to make basketball some sorta difficult, multi-faceted game when it is very simple. Makng shots is all that matters. Dribbling, passng, defense, rebounding can all be done with great efficiency but if you don’t shoot well you’re gonna lose. On the other hand if you shoot well you can get by with doing all those other things minimally.

[cavedweller2]

Some try to make basketball some sorta difficult, multi-faceted game when it is very simple. Makng shots is all that matters. Dribbling, passng, defense, rebounding can all be done with great efficiency but if you don’t shoot well you’re gonna lose. On the other hand if you shoot well you can get by with doing all those other things minimally.

Like putting in golf.

[saltyshaker]

i think it would help basketball if they could adopt a redshirt rule similiar o football allowing a player a minimal # of games before he burns his redshirt.specifically to deal with such a rash of injurirs.