Baseball Season Starts Tomorrow

[FU Hoopla]

Again just slams against me which is fine but still no one can come up with a good excuse why FU does not have baseball because there isn’t one.

I have not heard of a serious large financial commitment come forward that has been turned away, so those that seem to want it most must not be the ones financially able to make it happen.............
I don't have a problem with it coming back, but only if the money is there which it must not be................

[apaladin]

Again just slams against me which is fine but still no one can come up with a good excuse why FU does not have baseball because there isn’t one.

I have not heard of a serious large financial commitment come forward that has been turned away, so those that seem to want it most must not be the ones financially able to make it happen.............
I don't have a problem with it coming back, but only if the money is there which it must not be................

Does every other school in the state have a large financial commitment from someone? Absolutely not. Why does bb have to be funded by someone when other sports don’t? For what it is worth ED turned down a $3 million commitment from one individual when she decided to end baseball. You can believe that or not but it is absolutely true. Again there is no legitimste excuse for FU to not have bb.

[apaladin]

Again just slams against me which is fine but still no one can come up with a good excuse why FU does not have baseball because there isn’t one.

From The State article that is almost 5 years old. "A closer look: Why did Furman cut baseball, and could it be brought back?"

Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/sports/other-s ... ink=cpy"In the case of baseball, unfortunately we lose $1 million a year. In the case of men’s lacrosse we were losing $1.7 (million) a year. The majority of that is tuition. A strong part of that is salaries and to operate at a competitive level. In 2019 we only had $8,000 in ticket sales for baseball. You’re talking about an institutional investment in sports that’s intended to provide a great experience for your student-athletes and your alumni. But it comes with a cost that’s a pretty substantial cost."


Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/sports/other-s ... rylink=cpy

I know this lengthy conversation with Jason Donnelly will not satisfy you, but it does answer your question as to why. Read it, accept it, and move on. It's time to end the attacks against Furman University.

No one ever said that baseball pays for itself, but most of the cost is tuition. We could argue all day if that is a real cost. What about the other non-revenue sports that travel all over the country at a huge cost? At least bb plays within driving distance. Again every other college in the state has baseball and deals with the cost. Why can’t FU?

[FU Hoopla]

Again just slams against me which is fine but still no one can come up with a good excuse why FU does not have baseball because there isn’t one.

I have not heard of a serious large financial commitment come forward that has been turned away, so those that seem to want it most must not be the ones financially able to make it happen.............
I don't have a problem with it coming back, but only if the money is there which it must not be................

Does every other school in the state have a large financial commitment from someone? Absolutely not. Why does bb have to be funded by someone when other sports don’t? For what it is worth ED turned down a $3 million commitment from one individual when she decided to end baseball. You can believe that or not but it is absolutely true. Again there is no legitimste excuse for FU to not have bb.

The reason it needs to have a large financial commitment is because there needs to be a guarantee that other programs (ie. Men's Basketball) will take zero effect from any negative financial shortfalls the Baseball program would take down the line...........
The truth is its going to take north of $10 million to get the thing back off the ground.....

[FGT]

The biggest reason baseball is no longer around is gender equity concerns. The student enrollment is 60% female. Having to include football in athletic participation numbers skews the numbers.

There are women’s sports that Furman funds that don’t make a dime and operate at a considerable loss. They are under no threat of being dropped.

As far as attendance. Furman baseball was only behind football and men’s basketball in attendance. Factor in the home games at Fluor Field vs USC and Clemson that drew 2 and 3 + thousand and you won’t find any women’s sport at Furman that has done that.

[FU Hoopla]

The biggest reason baseball is no longer around is gender equity concerns. The student enrollment is 60% female. Having to include football in athletic participation numbers skews the numbers.

There are women’s sports that Furman funds that don’t make a dime and operate at a considerable loss. They are under no threat of being dropped.

As far as attendance. Furman baseball was only behind football and men’s basketball in attendance. Factor in the home games at Fluor Field vs USC and Clemson that drew 2 and 3 + thousand and you won’t find any women’s sport at Furman that has done that.

Of course all women's teams lose money in the SoCon for all sports..... Not really a point to be made there......
The only reason those women's sports exist in the SoCon is Title IX........... And nothing can be done about that.....

[apaladin]

Actually Furman is 56.9% female, 42.8 male. Another argument that doesn’t hold water. Charleston Southern is 62% female and 38% male and has baseball and the other 2 major sports. Wofford 53.2% female and 46.8% male so not much different than FU and again has all 3 sports.
Others:
Anderson 63/37 female had all 3 sports
Clemson 54/46 female has all 3 sports
Quit acting like FU is out there all alone with their female/male ratio when they are not and others have a higher female/male ratio. Every college I looked at had a higher female enrollment.

[FGT]

Actually Furman is 56.9% female, 42.8 male. Another argument that doesn’t hold water. Charleston Southern is 62% female and 38% male and has baseball and the other 2 major sports. Wofford 53.2% female and 46.8% male so not much different than FU and again has all 3 sports.
Others:
Anderson 63/37 female had all 3 sports
Clemson 54/46 female has all 3 sports
Quit acting like FU is out there all alone with there female/male ratio when they are not and others have a higher female/male ratio. Every college I looked at had a higher female enrollment.

Where there’s a will there’s a way. Unfortunately under the present leadership at Furman the will to keep baseball is not there. It really stinks because I enjoyed my time there and it was greatly enhanced by being a part of the baseball program.
People support and give to places based on an emotional attachment. For me and many, many others that attachment is gone. It’s certainly not life altering but it’s disappointing and in my biased eyes very unnecessary.

[Choir Boy]

Actually Furman is 56.9% female, 42.8 male. Another argument that doesn’t hold water. Charleston Southern is 62% female and 38% male and has baseball and the other 2 major sports. Wofford 53.2% female and 46.8% male so not much different than FU and again has all 3 sports.
Others:
Anderson 63/37 female had all 3 sports
Clemson 54/46 female has all 3 sports
Quit acting like FU is out there all alone with there female/male ratio when they are not and others have a higher female/male ratio. Every college I looked at had a higher female enrollment.

Where there’s a will there’s a way. Unfortunately under the present leadership at Furman the will to keep baseball is not there. It really stinks because I enjoyed my time there and it was greatly enhanced by being a part of the baseball program.
People support and give to places based on an emotional attachment. For me and many, many others that attachment is gone. It’s certainly not life altering but it’s disappointing and in my biased eyes very unnecessary.

Well Said…if this were a Democrat based board impeachment proceeding would have been initiated on the President

[apaladin]

Thanks FGT and Choirboy for the great and spot on posts. Still hoping for an early retirement.