Fine.
Stetson played @ Mercer in 2014 & 2015. Jacksonville played @ Mercer in 2017 & 2018. Paladin Stadium is about 4 Total Travel Hours further for JaxU & Stetson than is Five Star Stadium in Macon. Both those Teams & Davidson have played Home & Away games vs. FCS non-PFL Teams, other than Mercer in recent years, including a total of 3 other SoCon Teams...The Jackal wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:00 pmEven if true, if Mercer opts to pay teams more than the going rate, not much Furman can do about that.
Mercer does seem to have a pretty long continuing relationship with their former A-Sun/Pioneer league opponents. Since the Bears restarted football in 2013, Stetson, Jacksonville, or Campbell has shown up on the schedule every season but 2016. All three were in the Pioneer in 2013 for fooball, but had a long run in the A-Sun together.
I'm not going to dig in too deeply, but other than Mercer, Pioneer teams don't pop up on SoCon schedules all that often. Davidson played at WCU last season. Other than that game, I cannot think of another SoCon/Pioneer league contest in recent memory other than with Mercer. I could be overlooking them.
Just my opinion, but I would think SoCon teams would like to schedule Pioneer teams if they could -- the games would be likely home wins that count as a D1 victory despite the lack of scholarship players on the opposing sideline. If I were an AD at a Pioneer school, knowing that the geographically large conference already creates a lot of travel and the attractiveness to an FCS opponent, I'd probably ask for a lot of money too.
I don’t (necessarily) have a point to make, but it seems to me that the 3, actually 4, because Campbell did when they were in the PFL, Southeastern PFL Teams have traveled near & far, to other FCS non-Conference schools (SoCon, Big South, CAA, Southland, NEC, and Ivy) & they have even had Ivy & NEC schools come to them. I’m sure the AD’s & Head Football Coaches at all of these other schools that have, in recent years, found a way to come to terms and arrange OOC games with these 4 PFL Teams are not all stupid. And I doubt they all bankrupted their Athletics Departments to schedule these games.The Jackal wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:56 pmWell, I was referencing SoCon/Pioneer matchups, so I think that reinforces the point. Those games do not happen frequently.
Jacksonville and Stetson also travel much further than SoCon programs to play other FCS scholarship programs. So, yes, Macon is closer than Greenville, but not closer than Delaware, Sacred Heart, etc.
I have no idea whether the point regarding Mercer's payouts is accurate, I'm just noting that two Pioneer schools in Florida, who travel to play other further away programs, don't seem to schedule any SoCon teams but Mercer.
The 2008 game was 3-0 at halftime, and I believe we had a long Adam Mims TD called back due to a penalty. The final was 24-7. But the last game (2015) wasn't as close. 14-0 at halftime turned into a 42-3 blowout.The Jackal wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:06 amHad not realized this, but Virginia Tech does not exactly look like a world beater.
The Hokies beat only two teams ranked in the top 25 - one of which was vastly overrated Florida State. The head coach has seen his record get worse each of his first three seasons in Blacksburg.
Our last visit to VT ten years ago against what appeared to be a much better Hokie team ended up fairly respectable. 3-0 at half time, if I recall. Couldn't do much against their defense, but hung around for four quarters.
Yes. Thank you FUBeAR. We like to point a finger, blame others, and it is often inappropriate. This may not be your point (you did not necessarily have one to make, you said), not sure; but I want to say that I do not buy the idea that we cannot or should not get a game with PFL team. I do not necessarily mean this in regard to just 2019, but any other future year.FUBeAR wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:54 pmI don’t (necessarily) have a point to make, but it seems to me that the 3, actually 4, because Campbell did when they were in the PFL, Southeastern PFL Teams have traveled near & far, to other FCS non-Conference schools (SoCon, Big South, CAA, Southland, NEC, and Ivy) & they have even had Ivy & NEC schools come to them. I’m sure the AD’s & Head Football Coaches at all of these other schools that have, in recent years, found a way to come to terms and arrange OOC games with these 4 PFL Teams are not all stupid. And I doubt they all bankrupted their Athletics Departments to schedule these games.The Jackal wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:56 pmWell, I was referencing SoCon/Pioneer matchups, so I think that reinforces the point. Those games do not happen frequently.
Jacksonville and Stetson also travel much further than SoCon programs to play other FCS scholarship programs. So, yes, Macon is closer than Greenville, but not closer than Delaware, Sacred Heart, etc.
I have no idea whether the point regarding Mercer's payouts is accurate, I'm just noting that two Pioneer schools in Florida, who travel to play other further away programs, don't seem to schedule any SoCon teams but Mercer.
To ‘point a finger’ at 1 Team as the ‘villain’ keeping Furman from being able to get a game scheduled with Davidson, Jacksonville, Stetson, Campbell, or even Morehead State (which is closer to FU than Stetson or JaxU AND has played OVC, CAA, and SoCon Teams in recent years) when, obviously, other schools HAVE been able to make these games happen, seems just a bit implausible, doesn’t it?
Fixed it for you.FUwolfpacker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:38 pmThe ACC/VT officially released their schedules today. Furman @ VT September, 14 as expected.
http://theacc.com/documents/2019/1/16/2 ... hedule.pdf
Appreciate it. Fixed on my end as well.Flagman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:33 pmFixed it for you.FUwolfpacker wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 2:38 pmThe ACC/VT officially released their schedules today. Furman @ VT September, 14 as expected.
http://theacc.com/documents/2019/1/16/2 ... hedule.pdf
