sluggo wrote: ↑Fri Jun 07, 2024 11:34 am
Furmanoid wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:57 pm
In college nowadays (maybe not when you played) and at most schools (maybe not FU) many, many athletes take
bogus courses and receive bogus grades.
Everybody knows this. So it’s difficult to do legitimate comparisons to stoners and such because the stoners flunk and nobody cares.
HS sports definitely encourage attendance which of course increases graduation rates. Athletes aren’t allowed to exceed absentee limits by too much. And they have to get D’s. In my experience, basketball and FB players are mostly in middle level classes, but a large number are in remedial classes.
The kicker, maybe QB, golfers, soccer might take AP.
So while sports are a great influence, let’s be real.
HS athletes mostly scrape by with C’s and D’s in unbelievably easy classes. The ones who get the occasional B might get a scholarship (but not to FU).
Why do schools offer "bogus classes"? Is it a conspiracy?
They can't take bogus classes that aren't offered.
"
Everybody knows this". I'm reminded of the phrase "She F'd her way to the top", when I hear that.
Men who failed spewed that one a lot.
Find a kicker, QB, golfer or soccer player that majored in computer science and math at Furman, like I did? LOL!
I was the "fat dumb lineman" who tutored them.
Where is the proof of what you say; besides "
everybody knows"?
Everybody knows a lot in bias stuff about other people, and they are typically not even involved in any of the
processes of evaluating the students at any level.
My experience is that offensive linemen make higher grades; but that's never the stereotype.
The "fat and stupid" stereotype prevails despite the reality.
What sport did you dominate in at Furman?
What does your HOF college experience 40 yrs ago have to do with anything? I wasn’t talking about outliers like FU, and I wasn’t talking about freaking 1980. I was talking about typical programs NOW. I even said that the kids who’re barely eligible for scholarships elsewhere won’t get them from FU.
When I’m talking about who takes AP I’m talking about who’s taken what in the past 5 years I’ve substituted all over Aiken County which is a middle/upper SC county for education. If you think those classes are full of FB players, you’re delusional. In a class of 25, you might have 2-3. Maybe 5% of a team. Over 5 yrs I’ve seen 5 in those classes who were actual factors on the field. Two were kicker brothers (oldest starts for Iowa). Don’t think I’ve seen a basketball player yet. But there are always plenty of soccer, tennis, golf guys in there.
I didn’t dominate anything at FU. Even in HS the tennis team I played only got 4A runner up in ‘78. Didn’t play college. I tutored rocks for jocks. My FB players were not geniuses.
Did it ever occur to FB players of that era that maybe people didn’t like you because too many of your group were dickheads at keg parties and stuff? That’s what I remember. Nobody was jealous of the guys who lost to PC.