Don't forget that we spent a long time in the cellar struggling to muster up wins and fans. One day the situation will likely be reversed and you'll have to read some comments like this from a Wofford fan, and you'll probably feel like they're a jackass for it.
Wofford
14-14. 1975. 1980. 1993.
"Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean.
'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.”
Josey Wales
'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.”
Josey Wales
Can you delete and repost this in the Negative thread?
11/15/1980 was a wet, muddy day in Sirrine Stadium and the YappyDogs sorry NAIA butts, who had lost to the bellhops by 30+ 2 weeks before, knocked us out of consideration to play against Florida in the Tangerine Bowl with that 14-14 tie. Maryland beat Clemson that day and beat Virginia the following week to snag our Bowl spot.
10-1 SoCon Champion Furman, with only a loss to Carolina (#5 UNC), was looking more bowl worthy than a 6-3 ACC also-ran Maryland until that day.
A 9-1-1 Furman with a late-season tie to a mediocre-in-the-NAIA Wofford was of no interest whatsoever.
The best Furman Team in decades choked and a not-good-at-all Wofford Team ruined our post-season position.
Hmmm….maybe we should leave this here after all. Kinda one a them cautionary tales, ain’t it?
NCAA MANUAL
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
Crapped in the hat that gloomy November day. Lest it shall not happen again.
"Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean.
'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.”
Josey Wales
'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.”
Josey Wales
Looked a bit into Wofford. The Terriers are an interesting group.
First, the offense looks like a builder-basic spread attack that has really struggled this season. They don't seem to have a lot of faith in either one of their QBs and do not throw the ball well. I believe their best receiver has around 20 yards per game.
They feed their feature RB a lot. It's not demonstrably different than what we've seen from them in the post-Ayers years.
Defensively, they have some players. A lot of the guys we've seen before. They are a base 3-4 and seem a lot more willing to completely stack the box than, say, VMI was. We're going to have to throw it on them.
I was kind of surprised looking at their depth chart that most of their starting lineup is juniors and seniors. They've had a rough year, but I don't think it's lack of experience. They've got a number of guys that have played a lot of football for them.
I think this will be a similar approach to the VMI game - Wofford has hit 20 points only twice this season. I think Furman does what it can to keep putting up points knowing at some point, the Terriers are going to have a really hard time mounting multiple drives against out defense needed to win.
First, the offense looks like a builder-basic spread attack that has really struggled this season. They don't seem to have a lot of faith in either one of their QBs and do not throw the ball well. I believe their best receiver has around 20 yards per game.
They feed their feature RB a lot. It's not demonstrably different than what we've seen from them in the post-Ayers years.
Defensively, they have some players. A lot of the guys we've seen before. They are a base 3-4 and seem a lot more willing to completely stack the box than, say, VMI was. We're going to have to throw it on them.
I was kind of surprised looking at their depth chart that most of their starting lineup is juniors and seniors. They've had a rough year, but I don't think it's lack of experience. They've got a number of guys that have played a lot of football for them.
I think this will be a similar approach to the VMI game - Wofford has hit 20 points only twice this season. I think Furman does what it can to keep putting up points knowing at some point, the Terriers are going to have a really hard time mounting multiple drives against out defense needed to win.
The Jackal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:34 pmLooked a bit into Wofford. The Terriers are an interesting group.
I was there and to say it was muddy and sloppy was an understatement. Prolly the most embarrassing tie in FU football history.cavedweller2 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:59 pmCrapped in the hat that gloomy November day. Lest it shall not happen again.
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I watched 1993. That was a pisser. Take care of business !!!!!!
I was surprised at how VMI didn’t stack the box more. It gave us what we wanted. And what do you know? Our best offense in numerous games. Weird. All the prior games people sold out stopping our run game and we scored less. Yes, our Qb had a GREAT day but still surprised at the numbers (6/7) VMI had in the box.The Jackal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:34 pmLooked a bit into Wofford. The Terriers are an interesting group.
First, the offense looks like a builder-basic spread attack that has really struggled this season. They don't seem to have a lot of faith in either one of their QBs and do not throw the ball well. I believe their best receiver has around 20 yards per game.
They feed their feature RB a lot. It's not demonstrably different than what we've seen from them in the post-Ayers years.
Defensively, they have some players. A lot of the guys we've seen before. They are a base 3-4 and seem a lot more willing to completely stack the box than, say, VMI was. We're going to have to throw it on them.
I was kind of surprised looking at their depth chart that most of their starting lineup is juniors and seniors. They've had a rough year, but I don't think it's lack of experience. They've got a number of guys that have played a lot of football for them.
I think this will be a similar approach to the VMI game - Wofford has hit 20 points only twice this season. I think Furman does what it can to keep putting up points knowing at some point, the Terriers are going to have a really hard time mounting multiple drives against out defense needed to win.
Anyway note that Wofford is improving ! Blowouts. Then pushed WCU hard. Then beat Citadel. That WCU score showed me something.
Do NOT take this game lightly. It’s all business. Go Paladins !
Watching VMI's games, they would frequently walk up players on the edges, but rarely did you see them jam the entire defense inside the tackles, even against run heavy teams.
Wofford looks like they'll jam everyone inside the tackles.
Wofford looks like they'll jam everyone inside the tackles.
Seems like the easy answer to that is to do pitchouts and runs around the ends, yeah, no??The Jackal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:12 amWatching VMI's games, they would frequently walk up players on the edges, but rarely did you see them jam the entire defense inside the tackles, even against run heavy teams.
Wofford looks like they'll jam everyone inside the tackles.
Bootie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:18 amSeems like the easy answer to that is to do pitchouts and runs around the ends, yeah, no??The Jackal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:12 amWatching VMI's games, they would frequently walk up players on the edges, but rarely did you see them jam the entire defense inside the tackles, even against run heavy teams.
Wofford looks like they'll jam everyone inside the tackles.
Furman prefers to run a lot of zone concepts and stretch plays - teams counter that by trying to add more bodies to the run than we have blockers to block.
Yes, you can counter that by getting outside. You can run play action and punish teams for overcommitting their linebackers. You can throw downfield and force them to respect the deep ball.
When we've gotten in trouble this year, it's against these aggressive attacking defenses that have made up their mind to force us to throw. We'll have a negative play, get behind the sticks, misthrow a ball and then punt.
What put VMI in such a pickle is that we were throwing downfield on them. Now you can't afford to commit more bodies to the run, because we demonstrated that we can throw it over your heads. At that point, a defense just starts guessing.
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We beat Wofford with our second string. Sit the starters. Dont risk injury. They are terrible.
Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for Gozer: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
Nope. Don’t let up. Don’t mess around. Don’t make players have two weeks off to get rusty.Louis Tully wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:23 amWe beat Wofford with our second string. Sit the starters. Dont risk injury. They are terrible.