• SoCon Title/Playoffs

 #78760  by FUBeAR
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:17 am
HKB60 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:42 am
We do not need to play the scenario game
 #78762  by FUBeAR
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:52 am
Stumpy wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:30 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:19 am
IFBO
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Hmmm?

Not sure if...

...asking what "IFBO" means...

...OR...

...unable to render a mascot other than a question mark for UTC's amalgamation of mascot fails and asking FUBeAR in his Opinion (IFBO), what should be used...

...OR...

...Other????

IF the first one, you should be able to figure that out from this post...

IF the second one, IFBO, this works as well as anything to represent Chatt's mascot(s)...

Image

IF the third one...

Image
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 #78765  by FUBeAR
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:28 am
BIG AND TRUE!!

STATS Poll, 10/30/2023
https://theanalyst.com/na/2023/10/soco ... this-week/

1. South Dakota State (8-0, 5-0 MVFC), 1,400 points (56 of 56 first-place votes)
2. Furman (7-1, 5-0 SoCon), 1,278
3. Idaho (6-2, 4-1 Big Sky), 1,218
4. Montana (7-1, 4-1 Big Sky), 1,190
5. Delaware (7-1, 5-0 CAA), 1,171
6. Montana State (6-2, 4-1 Big Sky), 1,150
7. Sacramento State (6-2, 3-2 Big Sky), 1,074
8. UIW (7-1, 4-0 Southland), 980
9. South Dakota (6-2, 4-1 MVFC), 964
10. Southern Illinois (6-2, 3-2 MVFC), 862
11. North Dakota State (6-2, 3-2 MVFC), 815
12. North Carolina Central (7-1, 2-0 MEAC), 751
13. North Dakota (5-3, 3-2 MVFC), 648
14. Chattanooga (7-2, 6-1 Southern), 578
15. Florida A&M (7-1, 6-0 SWAC), 576
16. Western Carolina (5-3, 3-2 SoCon), 516
17. Villanova (6-2, 4-1 CAA), 471
18. Northern Iowa (5-3, 4-1 MVFC), 389
19. Austin Peay (6-2, 3-0 UAC), 387
20. Lafayette (7-1, 3-0 Patriot), 354
21. UT Martin (6-2, 3-1 Big South-OVC), 314
22. Youngstown State (5-3, 3-2 MVFC), 269
23. UAlbany (6-3, 4-1 CAA), 249
24. William & Mary (5-3, 3-2 CAA), 184
25. Mercer (6-3, 4-2 SoCon), 103


Dropped Out: Central Arkansas (18),UC Davis (25)

Others Receiving Votes (schools listed on two or more ballots): Central Arkansas (5-3, 2-1 UAC) 94; Harvard (6-1, 3-1 Ivy) 80; Holy Cross (5-3, 3-1 Patriot) 48; Tennessee State (6-2, 2-1 Big South-OVC) 48; Tarleton (6-3, 2-2 UAC) 14; Richmond (6-3, 5-1 CAA) 13; Gardner-Webb (4-4, 2-1 Big South-OVC) 5; UC Davis (4-4, 2-3 Big Sky) 3
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 #78766  by The Jackal
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:50 am
If Furman beats UTC, they'll hold the tiebreaker over everyone even in a 3-way or 4-way tie for the autobid.

So, win Saturday and Furman will have at least a share of the SoCon title and the autobid.
 #78767  by The Jackal
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:06 pm
Tickets to Playoffs, in my view. The SoCon has a decent shot to get four teams in.

Furman:

Beat UTC and Furman will hit 8 wins, lock up the autobid, and a share of the SoCon title. Whatever happens with VMI and Wofford, Furman will be in the post season with a win Saturday. Obviously, get past UTC and Furman still has two games in which they will be heavily favored.

Lose to UTC and Furman still would have a shot to get to 9-2 and may have an outside argument for a seed. However, the top 10 is crawling with Big Sky teams elbowing for room.

UTC:

Furman is their last SoCon game. They've already hit 7 wins. A win against Furman and they'll be the autobid and in the playoffs.

A loss against Furman and UTC will have an good as an at large at a 7-4 record (assuming a loss to Alabama). They will have beaten Mercer, but lost to Furman and WCU. UTC also has arguably the "worst loss" of any SoCon playoff contender - the early loss to North Alabama.

Western Carolina

5-3 overall, but still ranked in the top 15 or so in most polls. They finish with Wofford, ETSU, and VMI, which should get them to 8 wins and a playoff spot. Any other loss and they may be out of the running.

Mercer

The Bears have six wins and are in a spot to make a run at the post season. Mercer still has a winnable game against the Citadel, and a dangerous game against Samford, who essentially ended their post season hopes last year. Their win in Cullowhee was a huge one for them.

In my view, Mercer can't afford another loss. They'll have to get to 8 wins.
 #78771  by FUBeAR
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:00 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:50 am
If Furman beats UTC, they'll hold the tiebreaker over everyone even in a 3-way or 4-way tie for the autobid.

So, win Saturday and Furman will have at least a share of the SoCon title and the autobid.
Correct….and certainly worth repeating

Summarizing....
1) IF Furman defeats Chatt, Furman earns at least a share of the SoCon Championship AND the SoCon AutoBid
 #78787  by Flagman
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:54 pm
The autobid goes to the winner.
 #78788  by FUBeAR
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:13 pm
Flagman wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:54 pm
The autobid goes to the winner.
Yes - correct.

Furman & Chattanooga are going to play a Football game this Saturday (Lord willin’) in Chattanooga and the 1 Team of those 2 Teams that scores more points in this game than the other Team scores will automatically be included among the 24 Teams that will participate in the 2023 NCAA Division I FCS Playoffs.

 #78802  by FUpaladin08
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:15 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:06 pm
Tickets to Playoffs, in my view. The SoCon has a decent shot to get four teams in.

Furman:

Beat UTC and Furman will hit 8 wins, lock up the autobid, and a share of the SoCon title. Whatever happens with VMI and Wofford, Furman will be in the post season with a win Saturday. Obviously, get past UTC and Furman still has two games in which they will be heavily favored.

Lose to UTC and Furman still would have a shot to get to 9-2 and may have an outside argument for a seed. However, the top 10 is crawling with Big Sky teams elbowing for room.

UTC:

Furman is their last SoCon game. They've already hit 7 wins. A win against Furman and they'll be the autobid and in the playoffs.

A loss against Furman and UTC will have an good as an at large at a 7-4 record (assuming a loss to Alabama). They will have beaten Mercer, but lost to Furman and WCU. UTC also has arguably the "worst loss" of any SoCon playoff contender - the early loss to North Alabama.

Western Carolina

5-3 overall, but still ranked in the top 15 or so in most polls. They finish with Wofford, ETSU, and VMI, which should get them to 8 wins and a playoff spot. Any other loss and they may be out of the running.

Mercer

The Bears have six wins and are in a spot to make a run at the post season. Mercer still has a winnable game against the Citadel, and a dangerous game against Samford, who essentially ended their post season hopes last year. Their win in Cullowhee was a huge one for them.

In my view, Mercer can't afford another loss. They'll have to get to 8 wins.

Nice and simple.

To get four I think UTC has to beat FU, then WCU and Mercer win out right? That probably gets 4 in with no seeds and tough road games.

While I’m all for the most SoCon teams I’m sure we’re all cheering for Furman to get home field throughout the playoffs, and get two more SoCon teams. Unfortunately I think UTCs entire playoff hopes ride on this week and that makes them dangerous.
 #78806  by gofurman
 Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:48 pm
FUpaladin08 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:15 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:06 pm
Tickets to Playoffs, in my view. The SoCon has a decent shot to get four teams in.

Furman:

Beat UTC and Furman will hit 8 wins, lock up the autobid, and a share of the SoCon title. Whatever happens with VMI and Wofford, Furman will be in the post season with a win Saturday. Obviously, get past UTC and Furman still has two games in which they will be heavily favored.

Lose to UTC and Furman still would have a shot to get to 9-2 and may have an outside argument for a seed. However, the top 10 is crawling with Big Sky teams elbowing for room.

UTC:

Furman is their last SoCon game. They've already hit 7 wins. A win against Furman and they'll be the autobid and in the playoffs.

A loss against Furman and UTC will have an good as an at large at a 7-4 record (assuming a loss to Alabama). They will have beaten Mercer, but lost to Furman and WCU. UTC also has arguably the "worst loss" of any SoCon playoff contender - the early loss to North Alabama.

Western Carolina

5-3 overall, but still ranked in the top 15 or so in most polls. They finish with Wofford, ETSU, and VMI, which should get them to 8 wins and a playoff spot. Any other loss and they may be out of the running.

Mercer

The Bears have six wins and are in a spot to make a run at the post season. Mercer still has a winnable game against the Citadel, and a dangerous game against Samford, who essentially ended their post season hopes last year. Their win in Cullowhee was a huge one for them.

In my view, Mercer can't afford another loss. They'll have to get to 8 wins.

Nice and simple.

To get four I think UTC has to beat FU, then WCU and Mercer win out right? That probably gets 4 in with no seeds and tough road games.

While I’m all for the most SoCon teams I’m sure we’re all cheering for Furman to get home field throughout the playoffs, and get two more SoCon teams. Unfortunately I think UTCs entire playoff hopes ride on this week and that makes them dangerous.
This worries me. WCU could lose to us and be fine. UTC …
 #78808  by apaladin
 Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:03 am
UTC losing to FU in no way eliminates them from the playoffs. They are #14, losing to #2 drops them a couple of spots but still safe and secure well inside the top 25. Their game with Alabama will have very little bearing.
 #78811  by FUBeAR
 Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:46 am
apaladin wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:03 am
UTC losing to FU in no way eliminates them from the playoffs. They are #14, losing to #2 drops them a couple of spots but still safe and secure well inside the top 25. Their game with Alabama will have very little bearing.
FUBeAR, a highly compensated FCS Bracketologist when he was in the Navy, doesn’t see a 7-4 Chatt Team getting an At-Large bid. The bubble this year will be bigger than the one in which Glinda floated down to earth…and there will be 26 Big Sky, MVFC, and CAA Teams with 7-4 or 8-3 records.

The Mocs best win will be Mercer, who was ORV when Chatt beat them (by kicking FG’s - it was not a Committee-impressing win), and who is barely in the top 25 now, and could very well lose to Samford and be OUT of the playoffs themselves at 7-4 (assuming the Bears get past the bellhops).

Nah…if Chatt had beaten North Alabama, FUBeAR would give them a 51%+ chance of getting in at 8-3. At 7-4, it’s < 50% …IFBO.
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