• KenPom

 #63047  by apaladin
 Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:14 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:46 pm
apaladin wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:14 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:18 am
Furman still the favorite no doubt

Samford has zero good wins, ZERO

UTC has no wins any better than what Furman has on resume, if UTC goes and beats UGA on the road then ill be impressed, otherwise nah

They have 2 wins better than any FU win. Murray St and last night at MT.


No way, Belmont by 15, @App St., USC by 19 (who still beat Clemson) and even Winthrop by 15 (who beat Middle Tennessee also) are all just as good as those wins

apaladin you seem way to eager to crown utc champs for doing nothing special yet

FU will win this 2023 crown ;)
Just preparing myself for the annual disappointment. :lol: If you go by rankings none of the FU wins come close to Murray St. or MT.
kenpom:
MT 125
Murray 141
Best FU W:
Belmont 160.
 #63050  by FU Hoopla
 Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:37 pm
apaladin wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:14 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:46 pm
apaladin wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:14 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:18 am
Furman still the favorite no doubt

Samford has zero good wins, ZERO

UTC has no wins any better than what Furman has on resume, if UTC goes and beats UGA on the road then ill be impressed, otherwise nah

They have 2 wins better than any FU win. Murray St and last night at MT.


No way, Belmont by 15, @App St., USC by 19 (who still beat Clemson) and even Winthrop by 15 (who beat Middle Tennessee also) are all just as good as those wins

apaladin you seem way to eager to crown utc champs for doing nothing special yet

FU will win this 2023 crown ;)
Just preparing myself for the annual disappointment. :lol: If you go by rankings none of the FU wins come close to Murray St. or MT.
kenpom:
MT 125
Murray 141
Best FU W:
Belmont 160.
Well if we are going by rankings then FU #89 and UTC #134 ;)

Enjoy it man, we gonna win it all this year, soak it all in!
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 #63238  by FU Hoopla
 Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:10 am
Paladins will finish 9-4 in the Out-Of-Conference portion this year

So through the last 8 years we have gone OOC:

2015 - 6-7
2016 - 7-6
2017 - 9-4
2018 - 11-1
2019 - 10-3
2020 - 6-3 (Covid year)
2021 - 8-5
2022 - 9-4
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 #63246  by furpop16
 Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:00 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:10 am
Paladins will finish 9-4 in the Out-Of-Conference portion this year

So through the last 8 years we have gone OOC:

2015 - 6-7
2016 - 7-6
2017 - 9-4
2018 - 11-1
2019 - 10-3
2020 - 6-3 (Covid year)
2021 - 8-5
2022 - 9-4

Am I reading KenPom correctly that he rates our non-conference strength-of-schedule as #209 ? Seems we've played a tougher schedule than that.
 #63249  by apaladin
 Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:26 pm
furpop16 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:00 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:10 am
Paladins will finish 9-4 in the Out-Of-Conference portion this year

So through the last 8 years we have gone OOC:

2015 - 6-7
2016 - 7-6
2017 - 9-4
2018 - 11-1
2019 - 10-3
2020 - 6-3 (Covid year)
2021 - 8-5
2022 - 9-4

Am I reading KenPom correctly that he rates our non-conference strength-of-schedule as #209 ? Seems we've played a tougher schedule than that.
We’ve played 3 top 150 teams, the other 7 D1 teams are 159 and below. 1 300+ and 2 200+ so prolly about right.
Last edited by apaladin on Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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 #63250  by FU Hoopla
 Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:28 pm
furpop16 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:00 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:10 am
Paladins will finish 9-4 in the Out-Of-Conference portion this year

So through the last 8 years we have gone OOC:

2015 - 6-7
2016 - 7-6
2017 - 9-4
2018 - 11-1
2019 - 10-3
2020 - 6-3 (Covid year)
2021 - 8-5
2022 - 9-4

Am I reading KenPom correctly that he rates our non-conference strength-of-schedule as #209 ? Seems we've played a tougher schedule than that.
#150 to #250 range seems about where our OOC schedule has placed in recent years
 #63251  by FU Hoopla
 Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:29 pm
apaladin wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:26 pm
furpop16 wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:00 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:10 am
Paladins will finish 9-4 in the Out-Of-Conference portion this year

So through the last 8 years we have gone OOC:

2015 - 6-7
2016 - 7-6
2017 - 9-4
2018 - 11-1
2019 - 10-3
2020 - 6-3 (Covid year)
2021 - 8-5
2022 - 9-4

Am I reading KenPom correctly that he rates our non-conference strength-of-schedule as #209 ? Seems we've played a tougher schedule than that.
We’ve played 3 top 150 teams, the other 7 D1 teams are 159 and below. 1 300+ and 2 200+ so prolly about right.
Yep, NC St. #54 and Penn St. #34

Would have been amazing to get that Penn St. win, almost had it too!
 #63252  by Affirm
 Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:43 pm
What is the SoCon’s current overall Strength of Schedule?
Or if there is no overall average, what is the range?
 #63259  by FU Hoopla
 Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:05 pm
affirm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:43 pm
What is the SoCon’s current overall Strength of Schedule?
Or if there is no overall average, what is the range?
Good question
 #63284  by furpop16
 Sun Dec 18, 2022 8:57 pm
affirm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:43 pm
What is the SoCon’s current overall Strength of Schedule?
Or if there is no overall average, what is the range?

It's not KenPom, but Sagarin's free service features Conference rankings. Scroll down below the team rankings here: http://sagarin.com/sports/cbsend.htm . SoCon is smack in the middle at 16 (out of 32 conferences). The top nine(9) are the usual suspects: The P-5 plus Big East, followed by the AAC, MWC, & A-10, (though the WCC has snuck in there - due to Gonzaga & St. Mary's - pushing the A-10 to #10).

Conference USA takes #11 pushing the vaunted MVC to #12. Now if I were SoCon Commissioner, I'd want my mid-major Conference nudged right against the Missouri Valley - that's where SoCon placed last year - alas, Sagarin shows the Sun Belt, WAC, & Ivy League at #13, 14, & 15, before the SoCon places at #16.

Anyone with a KenPom subscription care to comment on Conference Rankings?
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 #63300  by FU Hoopla
 Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:13 am
KenPom still has us above 11-1 CofC, a team I feel we are better than but they could get into the Top 25 soon if they keep winning, it sure helped them to have home court advantage down at the Charleston Classic.
https://kenpom.com/
 #63311  by Paul C
 Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:33 pm
The SoCon currently sits at #17 just a fraction behind #16 Big West and solidly ahead of #18 ASun.

This is a bit down from the 13-14-15 ranking we’ve had over the last 3-4 years. Which feels about right given what we’ve seen so far this year.
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 #63325  by tya1
 Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:45 pm
Paul C wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:33 pm
The SoCon currently sits at #17 just a fraction behind #16 Big West and solidly ahead of #18 ASun.

This is a bit down from the 13-14-15 ranking we’ve had over the last 3-4 years. Which feels about right given what we’ve seen so far this year.
I actually think the conference has been in the 11-13 range in recent years.
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 #63327  by FU Hoopla
 Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:10 pm
Would be nice to get into that A10 multi-bid fold ;)
 #63329  by Paul C
 Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:14 pm
tya1 wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 4:45 pm
Paul C wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:33 pm
The SoCon currently sits at #17 just a fraction behind #16 Big West and solidly ahead of #18 ASun.

This is a bit down from the 13-14-15 ranking we’ve had over the last 3-4 years. Which feels about right given what we’ve seen so far this year.
I actually think the conference has been in the 11-13 range in recent years.
EoY rankings...def a good trend.....

2022 - 12
2021 - 14
2020 - 15
2019 - 13
2018 - 22
2017 - 14
2016 - 19
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