Sac State. V. The Word

[gofurman]

Stats mean less in football than in any other sport.

What I saw last night gave me every reason to believe that we are right up there w the top teams in FCS

And from what I’m seeing today SD St might be just a tad overrated.

Paul. Hey we usually agree. But -
1). SCORE (points scored. Points allowed) are a stat. Do they not matter?? They are absolutely a Stat.

2). Turnovers are a stat. Almost everyone agrees they matter. Jackal. Everyone.

3). 3rd down conversions are a stat. To not see a correlation in who wins and who converts third downs is well, crazy

You take Turnovers and third down conversions and you can predict who won with well over 90% accuracy.

4). Stats whatever. 700 yards +. My Point is Sac State ran UP AND DOWN the field at will when they had the ball. Thus they SCORED SIXTY THREE POINTS vs UIW. This despite FOUR TURNOVERS !! We scored 38 and had only two turnovers. The only thing stopping the Sac State offense was the turnovers. We just didn’t have the offense - I came away from our game thinking ‘wow, that UIW defense is strong’. Watching Sac State put 700+ yards on them I realize our offense is not elite. It’s true. Don’t read me wrong. We are very very very good. Truly Top notch.

But on offense we are apparently not elite. Our OL isnt quite getting the elite level push. If so we would have moved the ball better vs UIW. UIW had no answer to stop the run game of Sacramento. None. Defensively we all know we are extremely good except vs the best of receivers. Western Carolina 4th quarter. Samford quarters 2 and 3. . UIW. we couldn’t handle the top receivers and blew some coverages. Otherwise we are super.

People say it was set up for us to win. I mean I’d say at best it would have been 40/60 at Sac State. They had a nasty offense. Nasty.

Then Montana State might be the best left. Maybe. Still hard to tell yet. I know CAA appears overrated - dam 5 bid league my azz.

But 55-0 at third quarter? (Montana State over William and Mary). Wow

[gofurman]

Anyway. Here is loving the year we had. AWESOME!!

In playoffs it’s rough as everyone but one goes home on a loss. We don’t have pansy bowl system where half the teams get a Poulan Weed eater Cheezit Jimmy Kimmel win

[FUPlayer74]

Stats mean less in football than in any other sport.

What I saw last night gave me every reason to believe that we are right up there w the top teams in FCS

And from what I’m seeing today SD St might be just a tad overrated.

Paul. Hey we usually agree. But -
1). SCORE (points scored. Points allowed) are a stat. Do they not matter?? They are absolutely a Stat.

2). Turnovers are a stat. Almost everyone agrees they matter. Jackal. Everyone.

3). 3rd down conversions are a stat. To not see a correlation in who wins and who converts third downs is well, crazy

You take Turnovers and third down conversions and you can predict who won with well over 90% accuracy.

4). Stats whatever. 700 yards +. My Point is Sac State ran UP AND DOWN the field at will when they had the ball. Thus they SCORED SIXTY THREE POINTS vs UIW. This despite FOUR TURNOVERS !! We scored 38 and had only two turnovers. The only thing stopping the Sac State offense was the turnovers. We just didn’t have the offense - I came away from our game thinking ‘wow, that UIW defense is strong’. Watching Sac State put 700+ yards on them I realize our offense is not elite. It’s true. Don’t read me wrong. We are very very very good. Truly Top notch.

But on offense we are apparently not elite. Our OL isnt quite getting the elite level push. If so we would have moved the ball better vs UIW. UIW had no answer to stop the run game of Sacramento. None. Defensively we all know we are extremely good except vs the best of receivers. Western Carolina 4th quarter. Samford quarters 2 and 3. . UIW. we couldn’t handle the top receivers and blew some coverages. Otherwise we are super.

People say it was set up for us to win. I mean I’d say at best it would have been 40/60 at Sac State. They had a nasty offense. Nasty.

Then Montana State might be the best left. Maybe. Still hard to tell yet. I know CAA appears overrated - dam 5 bid league my azz.

But 55-0 at third quarter? (Montana State over William and Mary). Wow

GoFurman , I didn't read Paul's comment to say stats don't matter, but that they matter less in football. I'm not smart enough to know if that's true or not, but I understand what he is saying. Most football people relate to stats as to what happened on the field exclusive of the score. Of course the score is the most important measure of the game. Check out the stats in today's Army Navy game.

[Paul C]

Gf you just very eloquently made my point. Thanks.

[cavedweller2]

The only stat check mark in the knock out rounds that count are the checks under the W.

[FUBeAR]

Gf you just very eloquently made my point. Thanks.

Yeah, he does that.

[FurmanATT]

This game is a shoot-out. UIW seems to have no D at all in second half especially against the little short screen passes.

Lindsey Scott Jr. is a better runner than passer.

That was Clay Hendrix's view, too. -- MD

[gofurman]

Gf you just very eloquently made my point. Thanks.

Yeah, he does that.

So you all (PaulC and FUBeAR) don't think points matter? That is what you have just said.

POINTS SCORED & POINTS ALLOWED are absolutely statistics...

Conference points scored per game and Conference points allowed per game are STATISTICS that are tracked. I guess our points scored didn't matter to help us win?? WOW


And yes.. TURNOVERS and THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS etc etc lead to those points. One statistic (which you maintain does NOT matter) is "Red Zone Scoring efficiency".. That's a Statistic. A percentage statistic that is mathmatically measured (and usually favors teams that can run the ball well). But, hey, since statistics don't matter I guess POINTS and Red Zone ability to score doesn't matter.

That is a crazy world you guys live in.... I really don't know what to do with that except know that, in truth, you all are both WAY smarter than that

[gofurman]

Paul, on a totally separate note.. check your PM. Thanks

[gofurman]

This game is a shoot-out. UIW seems to have no D at all in second half especially against the little short screen passes.

Lindsey Scott Jr. is a better runner than passer.

That was Clay Hendrix's view, too. -- MD

Honestly, I feel - after watching Sac State - that our Offense left some to be desired. UIW had no answer for the basic running game and screen passes (over and over and over) of Sac State. We did that so well vs Clemson ... man...