Bound and determined

[apaladin]

The power 5’s can’t sit still. They are bound and determined to ruin college sports as we know it. USC and UCLA moving to the Big10 make no sense. Rutgers is 2,800 miles away. The closest Big 10 is at least 1500 miles. Greed trumps everything these days.

[Furmanoid]

I guess the Californians don’t care about their carbon footprint after all.

[FUBeAR]

I guess the Californians don’t care about their carbon footprint after all.

Nah, they do.

On the return Team flights, they gonna backhaul expectant birthing people seeking reproductive health care difficult to obtain in some of those B1G States in the ‘middle stuff’ of the US. Will actually net carbon tax credits for the CA Universities and the B1G. They can then apply these credits to their NIL funding collectives, enhancing their recruiting success, saving the earth, and preserving our American democracy.

WIN! WIN! WIN!

[Davemeister]

Where can the PAC go to replace those two? Poach another P-5 conference or promote Fresno St. & SDSU?

[JohnKX512]

Can anyone imagine flying from Los Angeles to Newark New Jersey to play women's tennis on a Tuesday?

All this for football.

[Affirm]

Can anyone imagine flying from Los Angeles to Newark New Jersey to play women's tennis on a Tuesday?

All this for football.

Quoting readers' comment and response in a major national media outlet yesterday, regarding these latest conference moves:
"College football is a joke and a waste of academic money. If the kids want to play, let the NFL train them out of high school instead of wasting money on athletic scholarships and coaching salaries. We need STEM educated people, leaders and researchers in universities, not ball players."

"Absolutely correct. The fact that this involves major educational and research institutions are involved here is completely ignored. How about a farm system for football like MLB has? At least it would be more honest and fair to the players. How many of them are truly interested in an education? Hardly promotes the idea of college as an intellectual and developmental four years, after which the student is ready to take his/her place as a contributing member of society."

[Affirm]

Can anyone imagine flying from Los Angeles to Newark New Jersey to play women's tennis on a Tuesday?

All this for football.

So maybe we'll eventually see
Washington, Cal, Stanford, and Kansas
moving to the ACC.
Or ACC changes its name to “Big 24+“ and adds, also to those 4:
Colorado, Arizona, Oregon, Baylor, and TCU
[or WVU, etc.]
(with ND of course still hanging loose in football).

[Affirm]

OK, I was admittedly a little behind, but now I have learned that college football is headed likely for two 32-team conferences. I have learned that one of the many big questions is what Clemson is going to do.

[Affirm]

Suggestion:
The current 14+ member ACC and the soon-to-be 16-member SEC should merge, bringing in Kansas and Colorado to make 32+. (Notre Dame is the plus. They will do whatever they want to do.)
The other 32-member conference will be comprised of the soon-to-be 16-member B1G plus remaining PAC12 (except Colorado) and remaining Big 12 (except Kansas). (I haven’t added up those numbers - a few teams may have to be added or deleted to get to a 32 total there.)

[Davemeister]

Then the two Super-Conferences will bolt the NCAA and make their own rules.

[FUBeAR]

Then the two Super-Conferences will bolt the NCAA and make their own rules.

They don’t have to leave the NCAA to do that. The NCAA has, essentially, abdicated all rule-making / enforcing “to the divisions” and/or “to the global governing bodies of those sports.”

Don’t know why they would / wouldn’t choose to stay in / leave the NCAA, but the point is…they can do whatever they want.

They don’t need no stinkin’ rules!

[Affirm]

Rumors and predictions are abundant. Today, it’s Arizona, ASU, Utah, and Colorado going to Big 12. It’s B1G standing pat until they know what ND wants to do. It’s possibly B1G taking any they want of Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Kansas, etc. ACC of course wants ND in football, which seems very unlikely to happen. Clemson appears to have a much worse situation than they would like to have.

[Furmanoid]

Sever football from the current conference system.

Create a new Division above DI.

4 conferences by geography sort of.

East

Clemson
UGA
Florida
Penn State
Auburn
Cincinnati
OSU
Kentucky?

Central

Bama
LSU
Wisconsin
Michigan
Michigan State
Iowa
Iowa St
ND
Houston

Plains/Mountains
TX
TAMU
UO
OK State
Baylor
BYU
Colorado
Utah

West
Stanford
Oregon
Washington
USC
UCLA
SDSU
Arizona State
WASU

Conference winners meet for 4 team playoff.

Bottom teams have to play top teams from lower division in challenge match on New Years. Winner is in top division. Loser drops down.

This whole P5 conference thing is stupid because Vandy, So Carolina, Rutgers, the ACC, etc aren’t power anything. That’s what screws everything up.

[Affirm]

THERE ARE CONCERNS THAT SEEMINGLY HAVE NOT BEEN BROUGHT UP IN IN THIS FBS FOOTBALL THREAD nor in any Furman Basketball thread. There will be ripple effects on Furman Football. There may also be equally large or larger ripple effects on Furman Basketball.

"Conference Realignment Today" is driven by football, but it is relevant to Furman basketball.

Article by Matt Bonesteel, Washington Post, "Southern Cal, UCLA's move shakes up more than just Big Ten." Published in The State Tuesday July 5, 2022.
"What will college sports look like in 2026? We're pegging this question to 2026 of (sic) two reasons: College football is driving all of this, and the CFP's television contract with ESPN expires after the 2025 season. After that, the college sports landscape as we know it could receive a wholesale makeover. What if the Big Ten and SEC continue their likely raid of other conferences to the point where their size and strength are such that they decide to leave the NCAA entirely, entering into talks with the television networks about creating theri own personal fiefdom? Any school not desired by one of those two conference would be left with scraps. What if the Big Ten and SEC decide to break away from the NCAA but bring along all 64 teams in the Power Five conferences ... plus Notre Dame? ... And let's not forget about college basketball, which doesn't bring in nearly the money that ... football does but still generates a lot of revenue, thanks in great part to the NCAA's television contracts for ... basketball ... tournaments. The NCAA's deal with CBS and Turner Sports for the men's tournament runs through 2032, and its blue-bloods-and Cinderallas format makes for compelling television every March. But what if all those blue bloods - basking in the prospect of further college football-generated riches - decide to leave the NCAA and create their own tournament?"