• NC A&T - Sept. 4

 #42806  by FurmAlum
 Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:01 pm
stonemd wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:17 pm
Amazing to hear no complaints about the refs! Was that just winning?
I think the Refs are too flag happy. They called 2 after the play's were over on us (Blackshear and Abshier) and one on them. They've gone too far with the "Targeting" calls. Neither one should have been called in my opinion. The first was just a hard hit and the second should just have been roughing the passer. Would like to hear some other opinions on this. Maybe from some ex-players.

A & T got the short end of the reffing stick but not by much.
 #42807  by apaladin
 Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:15 pm
After watching the replay I thought both of their targeting calls were correct. The one on Sisson was blatant. Two things you can’t do, launch, which he did, lead with the helmet which he did helmet to helmet. The other was less obvious but there was head contact with helmet and shoulder.
 #42811  by The Jackal
 Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:46 pm
apaladin wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:15 pm
After watching the replay I thought both of their targeting calls were correct. The one on Sisson was blatant. Two things you can’t do, launch, which he did, lead with the helmet which he did helmet to helmet. The other was less obvious but there was head contact with helmet and shoulder.

I know A&T fans didn't like the calls, but they were both correct.

Targeting is frequently misunderstood. There are two different rules - (1) no forcible contact with the crown of the helmet, and (2) no forcible contact with the head or neck area of a defenseless player. Both rules require at least one "indicator of targeting" and can be initiated by the replay official, even if not called on the field.

Essentially, the calls are type of "per se" liability. It doesn't matter if it was vicious. It doesn't matter if you meant to or couldn't stop yourself. If you do one of those two things, it is targeting, regardless of your intention.

In both instances, the Furman player was definitionally "defenseless"

Deluca had just reached for and dropped a pass. One of the definitions of a defenseless player includes "[a] receiver attempting to catch a forward pass . . . and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier."

Sisson, too, was definitionally "defenseless" as "[a] player in the act of or just after throwing a pass."

As both players were definitionally defenseless, the question is essentially was whether there was forcible contact with the head or neck. In both instances there was.

Unlike a number of targeting calls, both plays were unnecessary. Aggie defenders had other options beside targeting the offensive player.
 #42815  by apaladin
 Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:52 am
Didn’t realize that A&T was missing 3 of their 4 starters on the DL including both DE.
 #42816  by purplehorse
 Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:58 am
They were missing quite a few players in addition to Crossen the injured player AND the two target ejections. No doubt they were “down’” more players than we were.
 #42819  by The Jackal
 Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:38 am
purplehorse wrote:
Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:58 am
They were missing quite a few players in addition to Crossen the injured player AND the two target ejections. No doubt they were “down’” more players than we were.
Depth is as much a part of football as the blocking schemes or the forward pass.

Both teams Saturday were having to access their depth. Furman was rotating freshmen in along both the offensive and defensive lines most of the day as well.
 #42901  by apaladin
 Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:35 pm
FYI- Duke scores on the last play of the first half to go ahead 21-14 over A&T. A&T is playing without QB Fowler but is moving the ball well against Duke. Duke can’t run but A&T can’t stop Duke’s passing,
 #42903  by apaladin
 Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:40 pm
A&T ended up really missing Fowlers passing. They ended up with only 56 yds passing but did run for over 200.
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