• Billy Napier to SC?

 #33053  by DeepPurple
 Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:05 pm
I don't think the Coastal crowd will be heading to Columbia, but in 2020, who knows what might happen.
 #33054  by The Jackal
 Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:20 pm
AstroDin wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:04 pm
Checked in with my Gamecock family members…
they seem to think Napier is the choice at the lower level schools - over Chadwell and Freeze who have shady pasts.

Kitchens is at USC as RB coach - would be kinda funny to have Napier and Bobby Lamb in Columbia.

My friend and I discussed this morning. Harbaugh likely out. James Franklin likely out. Auburn may finally fire Gus Malzahn. Freeze may be a guy.

I think Chadwell is a stretch. One thing he does not have in common with guys that move from lower level schools is a big school pedigree.

I believe all of the SEC head coaches either (1) have head coaching experience at major programs or (2) experience as a top coordinator at a major program.

Chadwell has neither. He may be on a career path more closely linked to Mike Houston at ECU. Chadwell's next move may be to a bigger G5 school in a more prestigious conference.
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 #33059  by apaladin
 Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:53 pm
Davemeister wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:40 am
The Jackal wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:19 am

Even with Coastal being a top 25 team, they are still miles from the upper echelon of college football.

The Chants are a helluva lot closer to the upper echelon of college football than the Lamecocks. Chadwell is already in the State University system, so I say bring him up from the farm team to the Majors.
I guess you could say send him down to the minors from the majors since his team is ranked. :D
 #33060  by apaladin
 Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:56 pm
DeepPurple wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:27 am
I think they will go 100% after Freeze. Billy Napier would be a great choice.
Didn’t he just sign a long extension in the last couple of weeks? Could be a hefty buyout for SC to pay. Liberty has a lot of money so they could, probably would match anything SC could offer.
 #33062  by cavedweller2
 Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:37 pm
The Gamecocks will screw this up just like they have been doing ever since they failed to hire Dick Sheridan after the 1981 season when Jim Carlen left.
 #33077  by Affirm
 Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:19 pm
cavedweller2 wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:37 pm
The Gamecocks will screw this up just like they have been doing ever since they failed to hire Dick Sheridan after the 1981 season when Jim Carlen left.
Glad they did.
 #33086  by Flagman
 Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:25 am
Davemeister wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:11 am
How much will the Cocks have to pay Muschamp?
$13,000,000
If he gets another job, his salary will reduce the amount USC has to pay.
How do you spell retirement?
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 #33087  by MetroMizzy
 Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:51 pm
I like to call it "Failing Upward." There is long list of not so good college coaches that continue to get large buyouts followed by another pretty well paying job...SMH
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 #33088  by The Jackal
 Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:28 pm
MetroMizzy wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:51 pm
I like to call it "Failing Upward." There is long list of not so good college coaches that continue to get large buyouts followed by another pretty well paying job...SMH

I had this discussion yesterday.

The list of college coaches that are able to ride a couple of good seasons to 10 or 15 years of top jobs is fairly astounding.
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 #33090  by gman84
 Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:34 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:28 pm
MetroMizzy wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:51 pm
I like to call it "Failing Upward." There is long list of not so good college coaches that continue to get large buyouts followed by another pretty well paying job...SMH

I had this discussion yesterday.

The list of college coaches that are able to ride a couple of good seasons to 10 or 15 years of top jobs is fairly astounding.
Yep, desperate ADs and fan bases.
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 #33092  by The Jackal
 Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:14 pm
gman84 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:34 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:28 pm
MetroMizzy wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:51 pm
I like to call it "Failing Upward." There is long list of not so good college coaches that continue to get large buyouts followed by another pretty well paying job...SMH

I had this discussion yesterday.

The list of college coaches that are able to ride a couple of good seasons to 10 or 15 years of top jobs is fairly astounding.
Yep, desperate ADs and fan bases.

Some of it, too, is because of a pure talent advantage.

You think about Muschamp. He took over the defense at LSU under Saban, a defensive coach and perhaps one of the greatest coaching minds in history. In, what, two or three games a year Muschamp may have had to deal with an offense that arguably had as much talent as he had? Are you really a great defensive mind when you have 11 players better than anyone you are facing?

He parlays success under Nick Saban into gigs in the NFL, Auburn, Texas, Florida, and South Carolina. You could argue that he rode maybe one great season at LSU to close to 20 years and tens of millions of dollars. At South Carolina, he no longer had a talent advantage. He was exposed quickly.

There's examples of this at every level. Chris Hatcher had gobs of talent at Valdosta State. He turned that into three FCS head gigs, where he's gone 77-71 as a head coach (including a bunch of non-D1 wins at Samford). He's made the playoffs twice in 13 seasons as an FCS head coach, both first round exits. No conference titles and only finished second twice.
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 #33093  by cavedweller2
 Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:29 pm
Very good analysis Jackal.
 #33094  by cavedweller2
 Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:36 pm
Gregg Marshall just got 7.75 million to leave Wichita State today. Under duress of course.