• The 2020 Season

 #29909  by Furmanoid
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:02 am
Doesn’t it make sense that you would get scarier stories from “medical professionals in hospitals” than from people out and about? Isn’t that always the case? Is the ICU ever very cheerful? I was just reporting that, yes there is much more virus in Charleston than here in North Augusta where we still don’t know anybody whose got it. But, praise God, horrible outcomes appear to be outliers in the college age group-exactly like the statistics say. Unless you just hate the thought of possible good news look at the date of symptom onset curve on DHEC’s site. It certainly looks like something is changing. Maybe, maybe not.

Yes, FU3, watching someone die on a ventilator is horrific. I’m sure I’m not the only one whose seen it, and many of us will go out that way years from now. But we shouldn’t dwell on that, should we?
 #29911  by FU3
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:13 am
Nope... just pointing out that others may have decidedly different perspectives because... well, they are..anecdotal.As for it not being very progressive, it may be because I am not very progressive (although on GoPaladins it does not take much to get a“Lib “ designation 😁).
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 #29913  by Flagman
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:46 am
MEAC cancels fall sports.
 #29914  by FUBeAR
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am
Maybe we need to get the SoCon League Office to reach out to this Dr. Mark McDonald for some advice on whether or not SoCon Teams should be playing Football this Fall.



He convinced a school board in California to re-open schools this Fall. OK, it was Orange County, CA, but that’s still, technically, part of LA LA Land.

If you’d like to take a ‘deeper dive’ into this, click this link & scroll to page 10 - https://ocde.us/Board/Documents/2020%2 ... 3.2020.pdf
...to read the entire info present by Dr. McDonald, 6 other MD’s, and several other experts. Below is the beginning of their summary...

“The board’s experts presented evidence that strongly supports opening schools in the fall as it is critical to the well-being of our children, families, and communities. The intent of the board was to demonstrate and provide expert opinions and science- based data that can be considered by local school trustees and superintendents when making policies for reopening schools in their district.”
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 #29915  by JohnKX512
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:51 am
NCAA to require testing 72 hours before each contest.

Rose Bowl Parade cancelled.
 #29916  by FUpaladin08
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:52 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:14 pm
FurmAlum wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:39 pm
Let’s play ball! (without fans, it that’s the way it has to be...kids want to & need to PLAY!!)

(psssst...the kids are gonna get it anyway. #TRUST)
That’s right. If they show up for school playing football or not playing football won’t matter as long as they are in the same dorms, cafeteria, and parties.
 #29917  by JohnKX512
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:55 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am
Maybe we need to get the SoCon League Office to reach out to this Dr. Mark McDonald for some advice on whether or not SoCon Teams should be playing Football this Fall.



He convinced a school board in California to re-open schools this Fall. OK, it was Orange County, CA, but that’s still, technically, part of LA LA Land.
Dr. McDonald is a psychiatrist. Looks like they picked the one guy with the least experience on disease control and agreed with an opinion to open schools.
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 #29918  by Roundball
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:12 pm
JohnKX512 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:55 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am
Maybe we need to get the SoCon League Office to reach out to this Dr. Mark McDonald for some advice on whether or not SoCon Teams should be playing Football this Fall.



He convinced a school board in California to re-open schools this Fall. OK, it was Orange County, CA, but that’s still, technically, part of LA LA Land.
Dr. McDonald is a psychiatrist. Looks like they picked the one guy with the least experience on disease control and agreed with an opinion to open schools.
Well, at least he is not a baseball umpire. :D
 #29919  by FUBeAR
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:13 pm
JohnKX512 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:55 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am
Maybe we need to get the SoCon League Office to reach out to this Dr. Mark McDonald for some advice on whether or not SoCon Teams should be playing Football this Fall.



He convinced a school board in California to re-open schools this Fall. OK, it was Orange County, CA, but that’s still, technically, part of LA LA Land.
Dr. McDonald is a psychiatrist. Looks like they picked the one guy with the least experience on disease control and agreed with an opinion to open schools.
Ooooh, so close, but wrong.

Read the edited post. 6 other MD’s on the panel as well. Of course, I’m sure you’ll be able to find their qualifications wanting, also, because, well, because, you just want to...for some reason. I’m just a bit suspect of that reason being the physical, mental, and emotional welfare of the student athletes involved.

What the heck...I’ll save you the effort of clicking. Here are the qualifications of their expert panel.

Community Forum Expert Panelists

Dr. Steven Abelowitz is past Pediatric Department Chair, Hoag Memorial Hospital Presbyterian. He is board certified in Pediatric Medicine and Medical Director of Coastal Kids Pediatric Medical Group in Newport Beach, Irvine, Laguna Niguel, and Ladera Ranch. Among other credentials and honors, Dr Abelowitz is a fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics and board certified in Pediatric Medicine.

Dr. Clayton Chau is the director of the OC Health Care Agency, having worked for the agency’s Behavioral Health Services team from 1999-2012. He was most recently Chief Clinical and Strategy Officer for Mind OC, the not-for-profit created to support the advancement of Be Well OC. Dr. Chau received his PhD in Clinical Psychology from Chelsea University in 2004, and his medical degree from the University of Minnesota in 1994. He completed his psychiatry residency at the University of California, Los Angeles/San Fernando Valley followed by a fellowship with the National Institute of Mental Health in psychoneuroimmunology focusing on substance use disorder and HIV. Dr. Chau has conducted international trainings in the areas of health care integration, health care system reform, cultural competency and mental health policy.

Dr. Michael Eilbert is a hospitalist and pulmonologist practicing medicine in Newport’s Hoag Memorial Hospital Presbyterian. He has been in private practice for more than 20 years in Orange County. In this pandemic, Dr. Eilbert is actively involved in the treatment and care of acute Covid-19 positive patients. He is a member of the Board of Directors of the Orange County Medical Association (OCMA) and president elect to OCMA.

Dr. Mike Fitzgibbons is a hospitalist and an Infectious Disease specialist practicing medicine in central Orange County for over three decades. He is on staff at St. Joseph Hospital in Orange. A graduate of Georgetown Medical School, Dr. Fitzgibbons completed his residency and fellowship at UC Irvine Medical Center. In the current pandemic, Dr. Fitzgibbons is actively involved in the treatment and care of acute Covid-19 -positive patients. He is an expert on infectious pathogens and their associated morbidity and mortality. Dr. Fitzgibbons is a delegate to the California Medical Association and active in public policy on health and medical issues with the Orange County Medical Association.

Dr. Simone Gold is a board-certified emergency physician in Los Angeles, California. She graduated from Chicago Medical School before attending Stanford University Law School to earn her Juris Doctorate degree. She completed her residency in Emergency Medicine at Stony Brook University Hospital in New York. Dr. Gold has had a life-long interest in health policy, and worked in Washington D.C. for the former Surgeon General, as well as for the Chairman of the Labor & Human Resources Committee. She has also worked as a physician advisor determining inpatient or outpatient status, and as a physician-attorney advocate for hospital-clients with Medicare and Medicaid appeals. She is a published author and editor of several magazine and newspaper articles.

Joel Kotkin is the Presidential Fellow in Urban Futures at Chapman University in Orange, California and Executive Director of the Houston-based Urban Reform Institute. He is Senior Advisor to the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute. Kotkin has recently completed several studies including on urbanism, the future of localism, the changing role of transit in America and most recently California’s lurch towards feudalism. He is co-author, with Michael Lind, on a report published in 2018 on the revival of the American Heartland for the Center for Opportunity Urbanism. As director of the Center for Demographics and Policy at Chapman University, he was the lead author of a major study on housing, and recently, with Marshall Toplansky, published a strategic analysis for Orange County.

Sherry Kropp PhD served in Orange County’s Los Alamitos Unified School District since 1985 and was superintendent from 2011 until her retirement in 2019. A graduate of Orange County schools, she began her teaching career in 1978 as an English, math, and biology teacher and coach in Washington state before returning to Southern California. Before she was named Superintendent of Los Alamitos Unified School District, Dr. Kropp was a teacher, assistant principal, and interim principal at Los Alamitos High School, a principal at a continuation high school, and a director and assistant superintendent in the district. She has a bachelors degree in English, masters in Educational Administration, and a doctorate in Educational Leadership.

Dr. Mark McDonald is a double board-certified child and adolescent psychiatrist in private practice in Los Angeles. He studied classical cello and world literature at UC Berkeley before beginning medical training at the Medical College of Wisconsin. He completed his adult psychiatry residency at the University of Cincinnati and child psychiatry fellowship at Harbor- UCLA in Los Angeles. He specializes in working with children with autism and trauma, as well as obsessive-compulsive and bipolar disorders. He is a candidate in psychoanalysis at the Psychoanalytic Center of California (PCC).

Larry Sand is an education policy expert with an insider’s view: he began teaching in New York in 1971, and, in 1985, taught elementary school as well as English, math, history and ESL in the Los Angeles Unified School District, where he also served as a Title 1 Coordinator. Retired but not retiring, he is the president of the nonprofit California Teachers Empowerment Network (CTEN), a nonpartisan group dedicated to providing teachers with reliable and balanced information about professional affiliations and positions on education issues. In 2011, realizing that parents, taxpayers and others frequently receive faulty information from the mainstream media, CTEN expanded its mission to help the general public understand the array of educational issues facing our country today.

Michael A. Shires, Ph.D is associate dean for strategy and special projects and an Associate Professor at Pepperdine University School of Public Policy. Shires has a long record of success finding new strategies and solutions to problems across a wide range of organizations, from small and mid-sized businesses to nonprofit organizations and think tanks to local communities and governments. Over 25 years, he has worked extensively with new organizations with line responsibility for developing management and educational systems. Dr. Shires has published extensively on state and local government finance in California, K-12 education policy and higher education policy. His research includes not only the nuts and bolts of state and local governance and finance, but also the ethics and politics of decision-making at these levels

Orange County Supervisor Don Wagner was re-elected to the Third Supervisorial district seat in March 2020, and has served as an elected leader in Orange County for over 24 years. He represents nearly 600,000 residents in Orange County’s Third District (Anaheim Hills, Irvine, Orange, Tustin, North Tustin, Villa Park, Yorba Linda, and the unincorporated canyons). A practicing attorney, he has also served as a community college district trustee, state legislator, and mayor of Irvine from 2016 - 2019.

...start shootin’
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 #29921  by FUBeAR
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:19 pm
Roundball wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:12 pm
JohnKX512 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:55 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am
Maybe we need to get the SoCon League Office to reach out to this Dr. Mark McDonald for some advice on whether or not SoCon Teams should be playing Football this Fall.



He convinced a school board in California to re-open schools this Fall. OK, it was Orange County, CA, but that’s still, technically, part of LA LA Land.
Dr. McDonald is a psychiatrist. Looks like they picked the one guy with the least experience on disease control and agreed with an opinion to open schools.
Well, at least he is not a baseball umpire. :D
you don’t know that. He may be a darn fine umpire, in addition to being an excellent cello player https://thedocsla.com/psychiatrist
 #29922  by Furmanoid
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
JohnKX512 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:55 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am
Maybe we need to get the SoCon League Office to reach out to this Dr. Mark McDonald for some advice on whether or not SoCon Teams should be playing Football this Fall.



He convinced a school board in California to re-open schools this Fall. OK, it was Orange County, CA, but that’s still, technically, part of LA LA Land.
Dr. McDonald is a psychiatrist. Looks like they picked the one guy with the least experience on disease control and agreed with an opinion to open schools.
But didn’t the pediatricians say pretty much the same thing? I know they aren’t public health experts, but they should know a little something. The experts I see quoted all the time are often MS in Public Health types who will talk about their 20 yrs experience which of course includes observing 1 swine flu outbreak and some std work.
 #29923  by JohnKX512
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:03 pm
Furmanoid wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
JohnKX512 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:55 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am
Maybe we need to get the SoCon League Office to reach out to this Dr. Mark McDonald for some advice on whether or not SoCon Teams should be playing Football this Fall.



He convinced a school board in California to re-open schools this Fall. OK, it was Orange County, CA, but that’s still, technically, part of LA LA Land.
Dr. McDonald is a psychiatrist. Looks like they picked the one guy with the least experience on disease control and agreed with an opinion to open schools.
But didn’t the pediatricians say pretty much the same thing? I know they aren’t public health experts, but they should know a little something. The experts I see quoted all the time are often MS in Public Health types who will talk about their 20 yrs experience which of course includes observing 1 swine flu outbreak and some std work.
Oh I agree with the Orange County school board. I was just pointing out that we shouldn’t praise or share a tweet from the one guy that is a doctor but without much disease spread experience. Let’s not pick out 1 piece of information, but interpret it as a whole.

Read the whole summary, This was a diverse group with a suggested plan of reopening one school district in a state with many restrictions and mandated ordinances for COVID already.

I just encourage everyone to wear a mask. Limit exposure and socializing. For just a little longer...

I want school (I have three kids, can’t work without them in school honestly) I want football (don’t need fans in a stadium for a year, test and take care of our students), and want continued economic growth (employ 28 persons currently and want to continue operating and supplying other states)

Let’s contain, isolate, and turn down the curve. Please!

KEMP is awful. Why are we afraid of everyone wearing a mask?
 #29924  by FUBeAR
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:11 pm
JohnKX512 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:03 pm
Furmanoid wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:43 pm
JohnKX512 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:55 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:49 am
Maybe we need to get the SoCon League Office to reach out to this Dr. Mark McDonald for some advice on whether or not SoCon Teams should be playing Football this Fall.



He convinced a school board in California to re-open schools this Fall. OK, it was Orange County, CA, but that’s still, technically, part of LA LA Land.
Dr. McDonald is a psychiatrist. Looks like they picked the one guy with the least experience on disease control and agreed with an opinion to open schools.
But didn’t the pediatricians say pretty much the same thing? I know they aren’t public health experts, but they should know a little something. The experts I see quoted all the time are often MS in Public Health types who will talk about their 20 yrs experience which of course includes observing 1 swine flu outbreak and some std work.
Oh I agree with the Orange County school board. I was just pointing out that we shouldn’t praise or share a tweet from the one guy that is a doctor but without much disease spread experience. Let’s not pick out 1 piece of information, but interpret it as a whole.

Read the whole summary, This was a diverse group with a suggested plan of reopening one school district in a state with many restrictions and mandated ordinances for COVID already.

I just encourage everyone to wear a mask. Limit exposure and socializing. For just a little longer...

I want school (I have three kids, can’t work without them in school honestly) I want football (don’t need fans in a stadium for a year, test and take care of our students), and want continued economic growth (employ 28 persons currently and want to continue operating and supplying other states)

Let’s contain, isolate, and turn down the curve. Please!

KEMP is awful. Why are we afraid of everyone wearing a mask?
...and you were doing so well.

Kemp is a huge proponent of the free citizens of Georgia choosing to mask up. He has said so repeatedly for weeks.

As he should be, though, he’s very much “afraid” of governmental overreach & enacting a bunch of unenforceable, un-Constitutional orders & mandates. He’s especially against it when the mayors in many metropolitan areas of Georgia (Atlanta, Savannah, and Athens, for example) have refused to enforce the existing executive orders around social distancing & gathering sizes, when it was politically ‘virtuous’ for them not to enforce those orders.
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 #29925  by JohnKX512
 Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:20 pm
What’s wrong with a mask for a couple months? Getting back to normal quickly.

Or half of us will wear masks for many months and getting back to normal after a possible vaccine or maybe somehow herd immunity.

We will have 200,000 deaths by September unless someone makes a decision. Come on man!
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