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Socon Hall of Fame

PostPosted:Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:50 pm
by Mr. Taggart
I don't know who elects the Hall of Fame, but I saw Mike Ayers was elected this year -- only the 4th football coach, after Wallace Wade, Gen. Neyland, and Jerry Moore.

People whom Ayers was elected ahead of: Paul Johnson, Dick Sheridan, Jimmy Satterfield, Bobby Johnson, Bob Waters, Mack Brown, Sparky Woods, Marv Levy, Joe Morrison, Frank Howard, Jim Donnan, Pat Dye, and Tim Stowers.

Of those, Paul Johnson, Tim Stowers, Jim Donnan and Jimmy Satterfield won FCS titles, while Sheridan, Bobby Johnson, and Waters made a Championship game. Ayers' greatest success was one FCS Semifinal, the same as Bobby Lamb.

Ayers had a great career, but him getting into the HoF ahead of Paul Johnson is like putting Tommy Bowden in the Clemson Ring of Honor ahead of Dabo.

Re: Socon Hall of Fame

PostPosted:Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:11 pm
by FUBeAR
Mr. Taggart wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:50 pm
I don't know who elects the Hall of Fame, but I saw Mike Ayers was elected this year -- only the 4th football coach, after Wallace Wade, Gen. Neyland, and Jerry Moore.

People whom Ayers was elected ahead of: Paul Johnson, Dick Sheridan, Jimmy Satterfield, Bobby Johnson, Bob Waters, Mack Brown, Sparky Woods, Marv Levy, Joe Morrison, Frank Howard, Jim Donnan, Pat Dye, and Tim Stowers.

Of those, Paul Johnson, Tim Stowers, Jim Donnan and Jimmy Satterfield won FCS titles, while Sheridan, Bobby Johnson, and Waters made a Championship game. Ayers' greatest success was one FCS Semifinal, the same as Bobby Lamb.

Ayers had a great career, but him getting into the HoF ahead of Paul Johnson is like putting Tommy Bowden in the Clemson Ring of Honor ahead of Dabo.
And...even worse, after over 80 years as a SoCon Member school, the HoF finally let the 1st bellhop in...a baseball coach, who lost almost 400 games (perfect!)...and, actually they even stooped to admit 1.5 luggage toters, cuz their other 1st HoFamer is shared with ETSU.

Re: Socon Hall of Fame

PostPosted:Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:02 pm
by fufanatic
I certainly won't justify it, because I agree with you, but I would imagine that there are politics involved ... AKA it's important to have all schools represented when possible, have a balance of schools and sports in any one year, have diversity in the candidates, etc. And since Wofford hasn't been in the league very long, but has had some pretty good success since joining, especially across football and men's basketball, I'm sure there was internal pressure to throw them a bone (no pun intended) as we are now in the 7th class of the hall of fame. To be fair, Moore does have a remarkable legacy, even though his most impressive work (taking a team from I believe NAIA to DII to FCS) happened mostly before getting to the SoCon. So he is a good candidate from an active SoCon member school that I don't believe has been represented yet. I see why it happened.

On another note, I believe league representatives, school representatives and media that cover the league are involved in voting, but I could be wrong.

Re: Socon Hall of Fame

PostPosted:Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:55 am
by Mr. Taggart
Sheridan, Satterfield, Johnson and Johnson managed to find their success without an NFL owner bankrolling their efforts. I think Mike Young has a strong HoF argument than Ayers TBH.

Re: Socon Hall of Fame

PostPosted:Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:04 am
by fufanatic
Mr. Taggart wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:55 am
Sheridan, Satterfield, Johnson and Johnson managed to find their success without an NFL owner bankrolling their efforts. I think Mike Young has a strong HoF argument than Ayers TBH.
I definitely agree with that! I'm guessing Mike Young will be a no-brainer when he retires.

Re: Socon Hall of Fame

PostPosted:Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:54 pm
by Flagman
fufanatic wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:04 am
Mr. Taggart wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:55 am
Sheridan, Satterfield, Johnson and Johnson managed to find their success without an NFL owner bankrolling their efforts. I think Mike Young has a strong HoF argument than Ayers TBH.
I definitely agree with that! I'm guessing Mike Young will be a no-brainer when he retires.
I bumped into Mike Young before the Furman-Wofford football play-off game last year. I agree with you. He is a "no brainer". I hope you get my drift.

Re: Socon Hall of Fame

PostPosted:Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:20 am
by sluggo
Maybe Ayers got in for not using salt tabs for 30 years.