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Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:16 am
by 76MrMoto
Refer: To the "Greenville Journal" website (https://greenvillejournal.com ). Note on bottom right of page, "Latest Issue". Turn to page 4 and read article titled "By The Numbers: Area Colleges & Universities".

Not impressive to read Furman is "moderately difficult" to get into while Clemson and Wofford are the only ones "extremely difficult"to get into. Impressive to read we are in the same category (moderately difficult) as USC Upstate.

Thank goodness we are not in the "mildly difficult" group.

Great PR for Furman.

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremly Difficult" Entrance Ratin

PostPosted:Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:33 pm
by cavedweller2
My daughter applied to Clemson for the sole reason to get accepted and turn them down. Which she did.

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremly Difficult" Entrance Ratin

PostPosted:Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:59 pm
by ccoates
It's the spelling requirement.

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:53 pm
by Affirm
President Davis has written that the 57% admit rate for the class of 2023 is the highest in over a decade. So we are more difficult (to get in to) now than we were for a number of years recently.

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:29 am
by paladinfan12
One can quickly fact check those stats for 2017:

Acceptance Rate:
Furman: 67.8%
Wofford: 70.1%
Clemson: 50.5%

SAT:
Furman: 1190-1380
Wofford: 1120-1310
Clemson: 1220-1390

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:46 pm
by Affirm
paladinfan12 wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:29 am
One can quickly fact check those stats for 2017:

Acceptance Rate:
Furman: 67.8%
Wofford: 70.1%
Clemson: 50.5%

SAT:
Furman: 1190-1380
Wofford: 1120-1310
Clemson: 1220-1390
Obviously our 2019 “57% admit rate” is 10.8 percentage points better than 2 years ago.
Obviously lower is better for admit rate.

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:59 pm
by Paul C
This quote was from Dr Davis' recent letter to Alumni...SAT scores a good tick higher than the 2017 #'s cited above....

"First, we’re delighted to welcome the class of 2023, which currently includes 656 first-year students and 19 transfer students. This class is one of Furman’s most academically talented classes with an admit rate of 57% (the most selective in over a decade), a core GPA of 3.6 and an average SAT score of 1350 (middle 50%, 1260-1400; ACT middle 50%, 28-32)."

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:49 pm
by Bonner
Remember that Furman is now a "test optional" campus. It allows applicants to decide whether to submit their SAT/ACT scores. Not many low scores arrive in the mail.

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:53 pm
by youwouldno
Davidson is test optional, among others. I doubt it has much impact on the class range, but serves as a way to entice additional applicants.

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:07 pm
by Affirm
youwouldno wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Davidson is test optional, among others. I doubt it has much impact on the class range, but serves as a way to entice additional applicants.
Football or basketball success entices additional applicants.

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:17 am
by Jasper
affirm wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:07 pm
youwouldno wrote:
Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Davidson is test optional, among others. I doubt it has much impact on the class range, but serves as a way to entice additional applicants.
Football or basketball success entices additional applicants.
You've sure got that right. I hear the application rate at Clemson has soared and I know that it has at Villanova for example. The more applicants, the more selective the school can be. I don't know if FU becoming a power in FCS football would make that kind of impact but a couple of basketball wins in the NCAA tournament certainly would. Even kids with 1500 SATs and a GPA of 3.8 like to paint their faces purple and make faces at the camera on national TV during the Sweet 16 games. ( See Duke "crazies") If the kid from Wofford makes a few 3's against Kentucky last season, it would have been tough to get into Spartanburg for a visit. :D

Re: Furman's "Moderately Diffcult" entrance rating - Wofford/Clemson "Extremely Difficult"

PostPosted:Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:22 pm
by JohnW
Very good example of "Wofford math" in the article. Furman admitted 61% of approx 5000 applicants and Wofford admitted 69% of approx 3100. Their gross number was lower due to fewer applicants. It's BS. As pointed out earlier it's not current data anyway, but 61% of better applicants by score is much better than 69% of lower scoring applicants. Bears repeating it's BS.