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Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:33 pm
by MidlandsPaladin
I have been an advocate for bringing back baseball as much as anyone on this board, and despite my distance from campus I always tried to attend a few games a year and as much of the SoCon tourney as I could. I miss those spring, Sunday afternoons at Furman and hope one day we get baseball back.

With that said, when the program was cut it came with a statement that we would instead put those resources into our major sports (Football and Basketball) to make improvements.

With SoCon championships in basketball and football and recent trips to the postseason in both sports, I can't help but ask if cutting the baseball program is thought to have contributed in any way to this recent success in the two major sports? Maybe a question for JD, but has anyone from the administration addressed this point when the subject of cutting baseball comes up? It doesn't change my thought that it was the wrong decision to cut the program and I would like to think that with the coaching staffs we have in place in the two major sports that success would have come anyway without sacrificing baseball. But I would love to hear the thoughts of others.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:15 pm
by Sad Din
not sure it helped but didnt hurt for sure IMHO

quantity went down but quality is up for sure

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:33 pm
by Paul C
I think it's obvious. A difficult choice but one I'd make again if I was in charge.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:15 pm
by apaladin
JD said they were told to cut 25% not move those revenues around. So the answer is no, it had no effect on football and or basketball IMHO. It was and still is a terrible decision.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:17 am
by Roundball
If you look at the number of new coaches on the basketball and football staffs, and the success of both, it is obvious the dollars went to both programs. It was a difficult decision that needed to be made. I remember someone on this board predicting donations to Furman would drop. That has been proven wrong and our remaining athletic programs are thriving.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:48 pm
by apaladin
Roundball wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:17 am
If you look at the number of new coaches on the basketball and football staffs, and the success of both, it is obvious the dollars went to both programs. It was a difficult decision that needed to be made. I remember someone on this board predicting donations to Furman would drop. That has been proven wrong and our remaining athletic programs are thriving.
Again the goal was to cut, not redistribute. More than likely any additions to football and basketball came from donations, not Furman.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:30 pm
by Paul C
No. You’re wrong. The goal was to cut to invest. And they did. It’s why we still have Bob.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:55 am
by Roundball
apaladin wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:48 pm
Roundball wrote:
Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:17 am
If you look at the number of new coaches on the basketball and football staffs, and the success of both, it is obvious the dollars went to both programs. It was a difficult decision that needed to be made. I remember someone on this board predicting donations to Furman would drop. That has been proven wrong and our remaining athletic programs are thriving.
Again the goal was to cut, not redistribute. More than likely any additions to football and basketball came from donations, not Furman.
Give it up apaladin. You are wrong.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:41 am
by FGT
Furman football is better because the OC left for ETSU. The SOCON isn’t very good either. Furman basketball was knocking on the door and was due. Hopefully getting over the hurdle of winning the SOCON tourney last year will lead to more championships. Expect vs. Hope mentality.

Still miss FU baseball. Lots of baseball money raised for a building that non baseball teams use now. Those sports have no burden to fundraise much of anything.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:30 am
by din23
FGT wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:41 am
Furman football is better because the OC left for ETSU. The SOCON isn’t very good either. Furman basketball was knocking on the door and was due. Hopefully getting over the hurdle of winning the SOCON tourney last year will lead to more championships. Expect vs. Hope mentality.

Still miss FU baseball. Lots of baseball money raised for a building that non baseball teams use now. Those sports have no burden to fundraise much of anything.
That's an extremely simplistic and incomplete explanation for a program with two SoCon titles, three runners up, and four playoff appearances in Coach Hendrix's seven years at the helm.

Re: Reflection and Question

PostPosted:Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:03 am
by FUBeAR
din23 wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:30 am
FGT wrote:
Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:41 am
Furman football is better because the OC left for ETSU. The SOCON isn’t very good either. Furman basketball was knocking on the door and was due. Hopefully getting over the hurdle of winning the SOCON tourney last year will lead to more championships. Expect vs. Hope mentality.

Still miss FU baseball. Lots of baseball money raised for a building that non baseball teams use now. Those sports have no burden to fundraise much of anything.
That's an extremely simplistic and incomplete explanation for a program with two SoCon titles, three runners up, and four playoff appearances in Coach Hendrix's seven years at the helm.
FUBeAR would add “entirely incorrect” to din23’s list of adjectives or adverbs or modifiers