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Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 pm
by CharlieFU
are both shooting 38% from the field. (Hunter and Lyons)
I wonder how many teams have won this many games with their 1 and 2 shooting like that?
Curious. One positive is that surely their % will only improve?
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:31 pm
by tya1
UNCG's senior guards Alonzo and Troy combine to hit just over 40%. Magee for Wofford hits 39%, although the other two starters in their three guard lineup hit 45% and 50%. Most of ETSU's guards are in the low 40% range.
Last year Sibley, Fowler and Davis all hit between 46 and 49%. We may have been spoiled a bit by that. Hunter hit 46.5% last year. Hopefully he will improve his percentages over the rest of year.
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:13 am
by PaladinPower
Good thing our 5 is hitting 64%
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:07 pm
by dinhead
CharlieFU wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 pm
are both shooting 38% from the field. (Hunter and Lyons)
I wonder how many teams have won this many games with their 1 and 2 shooting like that?
Curious. One positive is that surely their % will only improve?
How many teams start two players under 6 feet tall and have nobody over 6-8 on the entire roster ?
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:50 pm
by Flagman
Gonna be a cloudy day.
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:05 am
by CharlieFU
dinhead wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:07 pm
CharlieFU wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:05 pm
are both shooting 38% from the field. (Hunter and Lyons)
I wonder how many teams have won this many games with their 1 and 2 shooting like that?
Curious. One positive is that surely their % will only improve?
How many teams start two players under 6 feet tall and have nobody over 6-8 on the entire roster ?
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Uh, lots of mid major teams? Give it a rest.
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:20 am
by CharlieFU
Who has the SoCon’s second highest 3 point %?
Clay Mounce, who also is top 10 in rebounding.
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:52 pm
by DungeonRealm
Maybe its just me, but I imagine a hell on wheels starting group in a couple years with:
Sr. Alex Hunter (tons of experience floor general and 3 pt. stroke)
Sr. Tre Clark (6-5 great defense and versatility)
Sr. Clay Mounce (6-7 great 3pt shooter and ability to attack basket)
Jr. Noah Gurley (6-8 great athlete running the floor and stretch 4 shooter)
and either
So. Jonathan Lawrence (6-9 and looks like another great shooting big)
or
Jr. Jalen Slawson (6-7 shot blocker and I see 3pt potential for him to be able to stretch the floor as a big)
Also don't count out Bothwell to take his game to another level by next season!
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:22 am
by DungeonRealm
We all know Pugh has a really good outside stroke from what we have seen from him this year.
Also that 6-1 guard from Indiana we signed (Colin Kenney) averaging 30pts per game is suppose to be a good shooter as well from what I hear, I imagine Bob Richey wants to have around an 8 or 9 man rotation with everyone in the rotation being deadly from 3
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:34 pm
by Paul C
The most impressive thing to me about the current staff is their ability to evaluate talent and then develop it.
For example Mounce had one D1 offer, us.
If Gurley improves as much as Mounce did between RS Fr and RS So years he’s gonna be amazing.
And Tre Clark, who couldn’t even draw iron his Fr year, is now shooting 44% from 3 (of course only vs D1 competition to satisfy the negative nancies).
And as a team we are shooting 36.3% from 3, good for 79th of 353 D1 teams (again, only vs D1 competition).
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:59 pm
by Jasper
DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:22 am
We all know Pugh has a really good outside stroke from what we have seen from him this year.
Also that 6-1 guard from Indiana we signed (Colin Kenney) averaging 30pts per game is suppose to be a good shooter as well from what I hear, I imagine Bob Richey wants to have around an 8 or 9 man rotation with everyone in the rotation being deadly from 3
"an 8 or 9 man rotation with everyone in the rotation being deadly from 3"?? I hope Santa brings him that. Not too much to ask for IF he's been a good boy. Next stop = National Championship
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:53 pm
by DungeonRealm
Jasper wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 3:59 pm
DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:22 am
We all know Pugh has a really good outside stroke from what we have seen from him this year.
Also that 6-1 guard from Indiana we signed (Colin Kenney) averaging 30pts per game is suppose to be a good shooter as well from what I hear, I imagine Bob Richey wants to have around an 8 or 9 man rotation with everyone in the rotation being deadly from 3
"an 8 or 9 man rotation with everyone in the rotation being deadly from 3"?? I hope Santa brings him that. Not too much to ask for IF he's been a good boy. Next stop = National Championship
Sarcasm not appreciated
Making the NCAA's is the goal
I believe the 9 guys I highlighted can make up our rotation in 2 years and all be legit good threats from 3, that's what we are building
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:27 pm
by tya1
dinhead wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:07 pm
How many teams start two players under 6 feet tall and have nobody over 6-8 on the entire roster ?
Well, UNCG started two 6'0" guards and a 6'3" guard against us. They started 6'10" and 6'8" at forward. The two starting forwards combined for 12 points and 8 rebounds, which was less than Rafferty had by himself (22 pts,10 rebs.) The average height of Furman's and UNCG's starters is exactly the same.
VMI has been starting a 6'10" center, but it hasn't kept them out of last place. Mercer has starting guards at 6'3" and 6'4" and players at 6'10",6'11", and 7'0" on the roster (plus a 6'11" 255 guy sitting out until eligible next year.) They are tied for next to last.
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:10 pm
by dinhead
DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:52 pm
Maybe its just me, but I imagine a hell on wheels starting group in a couple years with:
Sr. Alex Hunter (tons of experience floor general and 3 pt. stroke)
Sr. Tre Clark (6-5 great defense and versatility)
Sr. Clay Mounce (6-7 great 3pt shooter and ability to attack basket)
Jr. Noah Gurley (6-8 great athlete running the floor and stretch 4 shooter)
and either
So. Jonathan Lawrence (6-9 and looks like another great shooting big)
or
Jr. Jalen Slawson (6-7 shot blocker and I see 3pt potential for him to be able to stretch the floor as a big)
Also don't count out Bothwell to take his game to another level by next season!
Absolutely. and I'm very high on Jason Pugh as well. Recruiting has been awesome. I'd like to see another big and a little more physicality but a year in the weight room could take Mounce and Gurley to another level. We'll be very good next year.
Re: Our 1 and 2 players...
PostPosted:Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:41 pm
by dinhead
tya1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:27 pm
dinhead wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:07 pm
How many teams start two players under 6 feet tall and have nobody over 6-8 on the entire roster ?
Well, UNCG started two 6'0" guards and a 6'3" guard against us. They started 6'10" and 6'8" at forward. The two starting forwards combined for 12 points and 8 rebounds, which was less than Rafferty had by himself (22 pts,10 rebs.) The average height of Furman's and UNCG's starters is exactly the same.
VMI has been starting a 6'10" center, but it hasn't kept them out of last place. Mercer has starting guards at 6'3" and 6'4" and players at 6'10",6'11", and 7'0" on the roster (plus a 6'11" 255 guy sitting out until eligible next year.) They are tied for next to last.
You're either agreeing with me, couldn't come up with an answer or misunderstood the question. I didn't say overall height of the starting lineup. We have good height at the 3 and 4 positions but real issues against taller guards and big guys in the paint.
More playing time for Tre Clark at the 1 and 2 spots and trying to work Jalen into the lineup (again) might be one solution. Moving Brown to the 2 spot might give us more size in the backcourt against certain matchups. Depth at the 4 and 5 (do we even have a 5 ?) is going to be the bigger issue. Rafferty has done an amazing job of holding the fort against some bigger players but I hate to tell you he's nowhere near 6-8. A little Woffy math on that measurement.
Go Dins. Let's make some adjustments against Woffy and kick some butt !