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Dan coming through with the clutch question on the spot

He seemed to be more concerned with the logo than with a proactive effort in lobbying for a second NCAA tournament bid for basketball. A lot of "no answer" answers.

Agreed - hoping he doesn't want to overpromise and underdeliver to start things off... It does sound like his starting place is going to be challenging teams to take on harder schedules to try and raise our NET #'s, but that's not easy once we start having success.

Was a bit odd the way he answered that, he must not be confident the SoCon can pull it off, sounds like FU needs to be looking elsewhere to level up eventually............

I took it to mean that they have some ideas and things to try in regards to scheduling. But he doesn’t want to say it publicly so that other conferences don’t copy it.

din23 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:58 pm

I took it to mean that they have some ideas and things to try in regards to scheduling. But he doesn’t want to say it publicly so that other conferences don’t copy it.

That was one aspect he tried to use, but he said that more in regards to getting the conference autobid team a better seed, rather than to elevate the league to two bid status, which he did not really want to address..................

Either way, give it a couple years and the proof will be in the pudding, one way or the other................

I hope this doesn’t count as this month’s version of ask the AD.

apaladin wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:43 pm

I hope this doesn’t count as this month’s version of ask the AD.

October will be here soon, plenty of Basketball questions will be ready to go by then

FU Hoopla wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:32 pm

din23 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:58 pm

I took it to mean that they have some ideas and things to try in regards to scheduling. But he doesn’t want to say it publicly so that other conferences don’t copy it.

That was one aspect he tried to use, but he said that more in regards to getting the conference autobid team a better seed, rather than to elevate the league to two bid status, which he did not really want to address..................

Either way, give it a couple years and the proof will be in the pudding, one way or the other................

Only way to elevate to 2 bids is by having teams consistently beating other well-known teams and making runs in March, like VCU and Dayton. Hard when no one will schedule Furman and the terrible teams are the ones getting P5 on their schedule

KingPaladin wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pm

FU Hoopla wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:32 pm

din23 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:58 pm

I took it to mean that they have some ideas and things to try in regards to scheduling. But he doesn’t want to say it publicly so that other conferences don’t copy it.

That was one aspect he tried to use, but he said that more in regards to getting the conference autobid team a better seed, rather than to elevate the league to two bid status, which he did not really want to address..................

Either way, give it a couple years and the proof will be in the pudding, one way or the other................

Only way to elevate to 2 bids is by having teams consistently beating other well-known teams and making runs in March, like VCU and Dayton. Hard when no one will schedule Furman and the terrible teams are the ones getting P5 on their schedule

There have been years where SoCon teams would've gotten at-large bids if said team didn't win the SoCon.
- Davidson the years Steph was there
- Wofford the year Fletcher Magee was a senior

The schedule Furman had last year was not the reason they were not in the at-large conversation. The reason they were not in the at-large conversation is because they lost to mediocre WCU, ODU, and Penn State teams, and lost to reallllly bad Citadel and High Point teams.

The way to get a multi-bid conference is to have 2 teams go 27-4, take care of business out of conference, lose to each other once, and not have any bad losses. St. Mary's, Gonzaga (early years), and Wichita State are all examples of teams with fairly weak OOC schedules that they demolished and then rolled through conference play. You don't see many 3 and 4 loss teams from a decent mid-major like to SoCon miss the tournament. The problem is when those teams have a 6 or 7 losses and one or two of those is a bad loss.

paladinfan12 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:10 pm

KingPaladin wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:42 pm

FU Hoopla wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:32 pm

din23 wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:58 pm

I took it to mean that they have some ideas and things to try in regards to scheduling. But he doesn’t want to say it publicly so that other conferences don’t copy it.

That was one aspect he tried to use, but he said that more in regards to getting the conference autobid team a better seed, rather than to elevate the league to two bid status, which he did not really want to address..................

Either way, give it a couple years and the proof will be in the pudding, one way or the other................

Only way to elevate to 2 bids is by having teams consistently beating other well-known teams and making runs in March, like VCU and Dayton. Hard when no one will schedule Furman and the terrible teams are the ones getting P5 on their schedule

There have been years where SoCon teams would've gotten at-large bids if said team didn't win the SoCon.
- Davidson the years Steph was there
- Wofford the year Fletcher Magee was a senior

The schedule Furman had last year was not the reason they were not in the at-large conversation. The reason they were not in the at-large conversation is because they lost to mediocre WCU, ODU, and Penn State teams, and lost to reallllly bad Citadel and High Point teams.

The way to get a multi-bid conference is to have 2 teams go 27-4, take care of business out of conference, lose to each other once, and not have any bad losses. St. Mary's, Gonzaga (early years), and Wichita State are all examples of teams with fairly weak OOC schedules that they demolished and then rolled through conference play. You don't see many 3 and 4 loss teams from a decent mid-major like to SoCon miss the tournament. The problem is when those teams have a 6 or 7 losses and one or two of those is a bad loss.

Davidson would not have gotten an at large bid Steph's Freshmen year......
They were a #13 seed his Freshmen year, so outside the at large bubble........
His Sophomore year they were a #10 seed, so if they lose SoCon title game maybe they get a bid as one of the last teams in, MAYBE.....
His Junior year they went to the NIT......

Yes correct, Wofftard would have gotten one as they were in the AP Top 25 poll to end the regular season.....

Penn St. who we nearly beat last year was not mediocre BTW, they were an NCAA tourney team and beat Texas A&M in the first round...

There have been several examples of teams with 27, 28, 29, 30 wins that miss the NCAA, I don't feel like looking them up right now but plenty of teams have been jipped in the past by the committee in favor of trash P6 teams with losing conference records.... All about protecting the money.......

The conference's overall rating will need to drastically improve for us to get the sway needed to land 2 teams in the NCAA (unless we have a team end the season in AP Top 25, which basically takes a really good OOC finish and an undefeated SoCon record to do so lol)

FU Hoopla wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:02 am

Raising the status of the league in Men's hoops is imperative..................