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FU Hoopla wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:32 am

League is really bad this year

With just a little more talent/depth we would steamroll this league EZ

So what does that tell us?

It tells us we need to get Timmons renovated SOON, Timmons is the only thing holding this program back from greatness, it hurts us in recruiting and effects our depth

I see no other obstacle in our path, we GOTTA get it done!

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:51 am

The facility is an issue. But I think there’s a much bigger issue. I just looked at the Kenpom. Aside from a couple of Ivy’s and Vanderbilt around 90 or so, I’m not sure there’s another top 100 team with any academic standards at all. Maybe Purdue. Maybe Northwestern. Duke and UNC? Give me a break.

So is it really doable to be much better than we are right now and maintain our standards?

purplehorse123 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:09 pm

I am not convinced that a great facility is going to draw more fans. Now if someone is saying a better facility will result in better recruits and thus a more talented team and more winning, I would not argue that.

In both football and basketball the best way to get more fans is to WIN games.

FU Hoopla wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:02 pm

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:51 am

The facility is an issue. But I think there’s a much bigger issue. I just looked at the Kenpom. Aside from a couple of Ivy’s and Vanderbilt around 90 or so, I’m not sure there’s another top 100 team with any academic standards at all. Maybe Purdue. Maybe Northwestern. Duke and UNC? Give me a break.

So is it really doable to be much better than we are right now and maintain our standards?

100% will land better depth for the program through recruiting with a better facility to use as recruiting tool.

One perfect example: Our biggest problem has been lack of depth every season, imagine not having to redshirt guys every year that are not ready to contribute, depth problem solved.

As now we literally check off all the boxes for any recruit, except having a nice venue to play and practice in, and that matters big time.

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:43 am

FU Hoopla wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:02 pm

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:51 am

The facility is an issue. But I think there’s a much bigger issue. I just looked at the Kenpom. Aside from a couple of Ivy’s and Vanderbilt around 90 or so, I’m not sure there’s another top 100 team with any academic standards at all. Maybe Purdue. Maybe Northwestern. Duke and UNC? Give me a break.

So is it really doable to be much better than we are right now and maintain our standards?
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100% will land better depth for the program through recruiting with a better facility to use as recruiting tool.

One perfect example: Our biggest problem has been lack of depth every season, imagine not having to redshirt guys every year that are not ready to contribute, depth problem solved.

As now we literally check off all the boxes for any recruit, except having a nice venue to play and practice in, and that matters big time.

Have you talked to recruits who said they would have gone to Furman if Timmons weren’t so crappy?

We do not check the boxes for “any recruit”. About 90+% of HS players need not apply. Can’t get in. Not being able to enroll is a pretty important box. We have Nike Peach Jam, the EYBL championship, here every summer. FU coaches are always there. But likely 60-70% of the players would have no interest because they are too good. Of the 30-40% left very few are geniuses believe it or not. The 2 or 3 who are really smart will parlay their skills into Ivy League degrees that are basically golden tickets into the ruling class. So I feel really sorry for the FU guy sent down to recruit that event.

I have four children that have all gone through the college search process over the last 7 years. Furman is a good school but it is not an elite school. It is just as hard to get into South Carolina and Clemson as it is Furman. It is much harder to get into UNC, Emory and Vanderbilt than Furman. I do not know what exceptions Furman makes for athletes but I am confident it is something. I would be surprised if getting in is our problem. We have the talent right now to win the SC and we had it last year.

GOAT wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:03 am

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:43 am

FU Hoopla wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:02 pm

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:51 am

The facility is an issue. But I think there’s a much bigger issue. I just looked at the Kenpom. Aside from a couple of Ivy’s and Vanderbilt around 90 or so, I’m not sure there’s another top 100 team with any academic standards at all. Maybe Purdue. Maybe Northwestern. Duke and UNC? Give me a break.

So is it really doable to be much better than we are right now and maintain our standards?
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100% will land better depth for the program through recruiting with a better facility to use as recruiting tool.

One perfect example: Our biggest problem has been lack of depth every season, imagine not having to redshirt guys every year that are not ready to contribute, depth problem solved.

As now we literally check off all the boxes for any recruit, except having a nice venue to play and practice in, and that matters big time.

Have you talked to recruits who said they would have gone to Furman if Timmons weren’t so crappy?

We do not check the boxes for “any recruit”. About 90+% of HS players need not apply. Can’t get in. Not being able to enroll is a pretty important box. We have Nike Peach Jam, the EYBL championship, here every summer. FU coaches are always there. But likely 60-70% of the players would have no interest because they are too good. Of the 30-40% left very few are geniuses believe it or not. The 2 or 3 who are really smart will parlay their skills into Ivy League degrees that are basically golden tickets into the ruling class. So I feel really sorry for the FU guy sent down to recruit that event.

I have four children that have all gone through the college search process over the last 7 years. Furman is a good school but it is not an elite school. It is just as hard to get into South Carolina and Clemson as it is Furman. It is much harder to get into UNC, Emory and Vanderbilt than Furman. I do not know what exceptions Furman makes for athletes but I am confident it is something. I would be surprised if getting in is our problem. We have the talent right now to win the SC and we had it last year.

Though ‘hard data’ is almost, or fully, impossible to secure, it is common knowledge or at least widely recognized/surmised that the ‘exceptions made for athletes’ at South Carolina, Clemson, UNC, and even Vanderbilt far exceed those available, if any, for potential Furman student athletes. At the P5 level, in almost all cases, the Admissions Standards for non-athletes are irrelevant for athletes.

With the ever-increasing NIL cash available, which, in actuality, has become nothing but “pay to play” at the P5 level, FUBeAR expects that whatever minimal admission standards are in place at P5 schools now will further and rapidly erode to nearly none.