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Tough stretch

PostPosted:Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:52 pm
by fu77fan
This has been a tough stretch for Furman fans!!

Basketball
1.) Lost to the pups from Wofford which cost us the So Con season championship.
2.) Lost in the first round of the tournament to VMI
3.) Learned that Noah would not return

We had high expectations this year and did not come close to meeting them.
Expectations for next year are dampened by losing both Mounce and Gurley

Football - enough said. See my harsh posts under the fb forum.

Between bb and fb, I do not remember a year where the expectations were so high and the results were so disappointing!

Waiting for some good news !!

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:09 pm
by Sad Din
fu77fan wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:52 pm
This has been a tough stretch for Furman fans!!

Basketball
1.) Lost to the pups from Wofford which cost us the So Con season championship.
2.) Lost in the first round of the tournament to VMI
3.) Learned that Noah would not return

We had high expectations this year and did not come close to meeting them.
Expectations for next year are dampened by losing both Mounce and Gurley

Football - enough said. See my harsh posts under the fb forum.

Between bb and fb, I do not remember a year where the expectations were so high and the results were so disappointing!

Waiting for some good news !!
Not to mention cutting two sports!

On the other hand, soccer, golf, tennis, track and wlax are doing well

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Sun May 23, 2021 12:19 pm
by purplehorse
I am more worried about football than basketball. For the first time in my life I am having thoughts about maybe we would be better served by putting money into basketball and dropping football. There the smaller schools can compete with the big boys. Mediocrity in football would be a tough pill to swallow.

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Sun May 23, 2021 12:39 pm
by Furmanoid
If we were to put more money into basketball, what would we spend it on? I could see someday giving the coach a big bump if we ever win anything.

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Sun May 23, 2021 2:17 pm
by Davemeister
Methinks forty years of failure in the SoCon Basketball Tournament is a tough stretch.

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Sun May 23, 2021 2:31 pm
by furpop16
Furmanoid wrote:
Sun May 23, 2021 12:39 pm
If we were to put more money into basketball, what would we spend it on? I could see someday giving the coach a big bump if we ever win anything.

To answer your question (not that I agree with robbing FB to pay for these):
1. Coach has mentioned several times his desire for a dedicated practice facility. We haven't heard much about this lately, which makes me think we're already in an initial 'quiet phase' of an associated Capital Campaign;
2. Bball-friendly renovations to Timmons. Several usual suspects have opined such efforts would best be initiated with dynamite. However, I recall about a year ago a UFFP-er's sharp-eyed son observed CBR carrying materials referring to such renovations. I'd at least be open to architectural options before going to the wrecking ball.

Perhaps it's COVID in general, or our less than stellar recent season, or Gurley's early departure, but personally I could use a morale boost. I'm hopeful for some uplifting news.

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Sun May 23, 2021 3:32 pm
by Furmanoid
Not having a practice facility is weird. They had one in the Joe Williams days. Did they tear it down?

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Sun May 23, 2021 6:52 pm
by FUBeAR
Furmanoid wrote:
Sun May 23, 2021 3:32 pm
Not having a practice facility is weird. They had one in the Joe Williams days. Did they tear it down?
They practiced in the “Old Gym” in FUBeAR’s day. Other than Football Coaches lunchtime pickup games, it was dedicated to Men’s Hoops. Those FU Hoops Teams won Championships.

I think we had a Women’s Team at the time & I think they practiced in the PAC.

Both buildings are still standing. So, with Timmons, we have 3 Basketball Buildings on campus.

Prolly wants a dedicated S&C Center for Hoops. I think a lot of the Teams have to share what exists now…

I know we won a bunch of SoCon Football Championships with 2 benches, 1 incline bench, 2 squat racks, 2 deadlift pads, 2 sets of dip bars, a few dumbbells, 2 Nautilus machines, and a rarely-used Universal Multi-Station rig in the basement of the “Old Gym.” And that was after a major upgrade.

Get off my lawn. Win something.

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Sun May 23, 2021 10:26 pm
by Furmanoid
I remember seeing an intra squad game in that gym one homecoming morning in the ‘70’s. Got to see Moose and Clyde and all those guys up close.

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Sun May 23, 2021 10:46 pm
by Sad Din
IMHO we have 1 maybe 2 years in this "quiet" phase before CBR gets impatient and moves on. He has made it clear that progress is needed and quickly

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Mon May 24, 2021 12:19 am
by FUBeAR
Sad Din wrote:
Sun May 23, 2021 10:46 pm
IMHO we have 1 maybe 2 years in this "quiet" phase before CBR gets impatient and moves on. He has made it clear that progress is needed and quickly
Coach Richey seems like a good Coach & a good guy.

Don’t know, so just asking…Is there a lot of precedent for 3rd Place SoCon Teams’ Head Basketball Coaches leaving for bigger, better jobs?

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Mon May 24, 2021 12:53 am
by RaleighDin
No idea, but I have to think where to program has historically ranked is taken into account as well. So you take a bottom dweller and prove you can maintain a top 3 program in the SoCon with limited resources and facilities that are a joke compared to many conference foes? Probably likely that a big school will swoop in eventually if Furman doesn't commit the resources.

From everything I can see he wants to be here - how many other coaches would be in it for the long term if he left? End of the day, even if we commit the resources and he leaves, we're better positioned to land a quality replacement (Tim Johnson would be top of my list).

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Mon May 24, 2021 6:58 am
by FUBeAR
RaleighDin wrote:
Mon May 24, 2021 12:53 am
No idea, but I have to think where to program has historically ranked is taken into account as well. So you take a bottom dweller and prove you can maintain a top 3 program in the SoCon
Yes. That’s what Coach Medved did & he got a bigger, better job. Seems to me we’re about in the same position/place we were, more or less, when he departed.

So, rephrasing the question - Is there solid precedent for a Head SoCon Basketball Coach, who maintains his Teams at 3rd place (or so), to be tapped for bigger, better jobs?

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Mon May 24, 2021 9:53 am
by Furmanoid
If we don’t do something special this year or next, the recent buzz around CBR will fade, and we can keep him around with decent raises and job security. If he does something real special and gets offers from major teams, we probably can’t fight them off anyway. Fix up Timmons all you want and we still won’t have ACC or SEC facilities.

I vote for the Last Chance U guy to replace him.

Re: Tough stretch

PostPosted:Mon May 24, 2021 11:05 am
by apaladin
Don’t think where FU finishes in the SoCon is a big factor but winning 20-25 games a year at Furman is eye opening. Hope I am wrong but chances of the 20+ win seasons continuing are trending down.