• 15 TEAMS

 #12961  by apaladin
 Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:49 pm
That's the number of underserving teams from the "power 5" conferences that received bids to the tourney. Exactly zero made it past the first weekend. The regular season proved who was the best teams but the committee chose to ignore that and rewarded mediocrity. At least half of these could have/should have been given to other conferences who could have been just as competitive.
ACC: Last 2 in was 0-2. Top 5 advanced
Big12: Last 5 in was 3-5. Top 1 advanced.
Big10: Last 5 in was 4-5. Top 3 advanced.
SEC: Last 5 in was 1-3. Top 4 advanced.
These 15 teams could only manage 8 wins and 4 of those wins were against one of the 15 teams in this group. This was not a unique season as this is the norm with an occasional rare exception. Of course we all know the big boys control who gets in and nothing will ever change. It's all about the MONEY.
IMHO these teams were the worst teams that should have been left out:
Louisville, Syracuse, Ole Miss, Miss. State. Florida, Oklahoma, Ohio St
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 #12963  by FUBeAR
 Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:46 pm
apaladin wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:49 pm
That's the number of underserving teams from the "power 5" conferences that received bids to the tourney. Exactly zero made it past the first weekend. The regular season proved who was the best teams but the committee chose to ignore that and rewarded mediocrity. At least half of these could have/should have been given to other conferences who could have been just as competitive.
ACC: Last 2 in was 0-2. Top 5 advanced
Big12: Last 5 in was 3-5. Top 1 advanced.
Big10: Last 5 in was 4-5. Top 3 advanced.
SEC: Last 5 in was 1-3. Top 4 advanced.
These 15 teams could only manage 8 wins and 4 of those wins were against one of the 15 teams in this group. This was not a unique season as this is the norm with an occasional rare exception. Of course we all know the big boys control who gets in and nothing will ever change. It's all about the MONEY.
IMHO these teams were the worst teams that should have been left out:
Louisville, Syracuse, Ole Miss, Miss. State. Florida, Oklahoma, Ohio St
You said Power 5, so I thought you might want to include the...

PAC 12: Last 1 in was 1-1 or 0-1, depending on what you ‘count’ - (#11 seed AzSt won over St. John’s in a “First Four” game, before being blown out by #6 seed Buffalo in a Round 1 game). Top 1 advanced (Oregon).

...and maybe change the thread name to “16 Teams” ...or “18”...not sure ‘zactly how you came to “15”...those “last in’s” you mention from those 4 P5 conferences add up to 17...and then you listed 7 that should have been left out. I’m sure you have a ‘15 undeserving methodology,’ but I’m just not seeing the math. I hate math.


‘Slight’ thread drift warning...

So...the only 2 non-Power 5 Teams to make it past the 1st weekend were #1 seed Gonzaga (who beat a #16 seed & a #9 seed to get there...of course they did) & #3 seed Houston (who beat a #14 seed & a #11 seed to get there...of course they did).

So...back to an earlier conversation. Only 1 non-Football / non-P5 Team made it past the 1st weekend... #1 seed, Gonzaga. And, only 1 non-FBS P5 Team, #3 seed Houston, made it past Weekend 1. (This seeding thing seems to be kind of important, huh?)

5 non-FBS Teams won 1st round games...Gonzaga, UC-Irvine, Villanova (whose hoops Team does play in a Hoops “Power Conference”), Murray State, and the SoCon’s own, Wofford Terriers. 3 of the 5 have FCS Football Teams...or if we want to agree to stipulate that Gonzaga & Villanova are ‘special cases’ and ‘wash them out,’ we have 2 non-FBS Teams winning a 1st round game that have FCS Football & 1 that doesn’t, UC Irvine...which has NEVER had a Football Team.

So, from this (limited) data, we could conclude that a non-FBS Basketball Team has twice as much chance of advancing to the 2nd Round of the ‘Dance’ if they DO have an FCS Football Team. So...what we are really talking about is...does not having an FCS Football Team improve the chances of a non-FBS Team receiving an at-large bid to the NCAA Hoops Tourney, and if it does, how much so? What FUBeAR concluded from the data presented on the other thread on this topic is... “Hard to say. It might, but if it does...it’s only by a wee bit.”

So...can we now put that topic to bed now...forever...please?

On the other hand, it appears that moving to FBS FOOTBALL would GREATLY enhance the Basketball Team’s chances of hoops getting an at-large berth..and moving to FBS P5 would all but ensure it. So, maybe that’s what we should be looking at, instead, to help our Basketball Team go dancing!

Just kidding...FUBeAR would be (almost) as much against that lunacy as he would the lunacy of even discussing that FU should think about dropping Football.