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Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:40 pm
by 76MrMoto
From today's "Football Scoops":

"Furman (FCS – SC): Furman is looking for a home game on November 23rd, 2019. Any FCS, Division II, or NAIA opponent will be considered. Must be a home game, and Furman is willing to pay guarantee. If interested, please contact Associate Athletics Director Ken Pettus at Ken.Pettus@furman.edu or Director of Football Operations T.J. Hall at tj.hall@furman.edu."

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:40 pm
by MidlandsPaladin
Will that not be the weekend of the opening round of playoffs?

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:48 pm
by gman
MidlandsPaladin wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:40 pm
Will that not be the weekend of the opening round of playoffs?
If the playoffs begin on Thanksgiving weekend, no. Hard to believe we have to beg for a game.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:50 pm
by apaladin
Playoffs start the last Saturday of November so no.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:53 pm
by MidlandsPaladin
Thanks. Division II and NAIA playoffs start a week before FCS, so any team worth playing isn't going to want to pull the trigger on that offer.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:55 pm
by gofurman
I don’t care if they ar good D2 or not. We just NEED A GAME. As is obvious by CCH getting this out there

We have 11 games. TWO FBS. ***. We are one of only four or five teams with that schedule setup. 9 FCS games in an 11 game schedule is trouble. . Everyone Else has 11 games w ONE FBS. Or they have TWO FBS games but 12 games total. That’s a PROBLEM !

As we saw this year. What if 11 game Furman w TWO FBS. How’s 7-4. And another team goes 8-3 w ONE FBS. or 9-3 w ONE FBS. Math like that confuses the committee !!!!!! They ain’t bright. We need to even up our schedule w other FCS teams. When I posted about this on AGS some replied “well you all obviously are just taking an extra payday in lieu of playoffs”. IE our schedule really detracts from at large chances. The other few teams doing this aren’t playoff caliber teams. We deserve the same TWO chances as everyone else - autobid AND at-large. Our current schedule almost eliminates the at large as it is somewhat like 2018 .... :shock:


***we saw how smart the committee is at comparing differing resumes (hurricane) this past year !!!

We need a 12th game imo. Bad!! And apparently I am thinking like CCH. (Rare I admit).

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:32 pm
by apaladin
76MrMoto wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:40 pm
From today's "Football Scoops":

"Furman (FCS – SC): Furman is looking for a home game on November 23rd, 2019. Any FCS, Division II, or NAIA opponent will be considered. Must be a home game, and Furman is willing to pay guarantee. If interested, please contact Associate Athletics Director Ken Pettus at Ken.Pettus@furman.edu or Director of Football Operations T.J. Hall at tj.hall@furman.edu."
Craigslist? :mrgreen:

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:50 am
by fufanatic
This is just sad. Not sure how a DII or NAIA game offers any help other than a tune-up for hopefully the playoffs or an easy win on Senior Day.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:08 am
by gofurman
fufanatic wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:50 am
This is just sad. Not sure how a DII or NAIA game offers any help other than a tune-up for hopefully the playoffs or an easy win on Senior Day.
It helps when you have a committee that is superficial in their review of playoff resumes. And a committee that can't do math.

Bubble over Committee guys head. " Oh, Furman won 8 games - they are in !"

I have a strong feeling this is why CCH has it out there. I hope we get a taker as obviously our coaches want it !

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:15 am
by fufanatic
gofurman wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:08 am
fufanatic wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:50 am
This is just sad. Not sure how a DII or NAIA game offers any help other than a tune-up for hopefully the playoffs or an easy win on Senior Day.
It helps when you have a committee that is superficial in their review of playoff resumes. And a committee that can't do math.

Bubble over Committee guys head. " Oh, Furman won 8 games - they are in !"

I have a strong feeling this is why CCH has it out there. I hope we get a taker as obviously our coaches want it !
Do we know that though? I'm pretty sure it specifically says that they don't consider any non-D1 wins. I truly believe they don't deep dive into a team's schedule (IE: we didn't have our QB for Elon or Samford, ETSU we led most of game), but I would have to think that it's pretty easy for them to get a list of team's records minus non-D1 games.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:23 pm
by FUpaladin08
fufanatic wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:15 am
gofurman wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:08 am
fufanatic wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:50 am
This is just sad. Not sure how a DII or NAIA game offers any help other than a tune-up for hopefully the playoffs or an easy win on Senior Day.
It helps when you have a committee that is superficial in their review of playoff resumes. And a committee that can't do math.

Bubble over Committee guys head. " Oh, Furman won 8 games - they are in !"

I have a strong feeling this is why CCH has it out there. I hope we get a taker as obviously our coaches want it !
Do we know that though? I'm pretty sure it specifically says that they don't consider any non-D1 wins. I truly believe they don't deep dive into a team's schedule (IE: we didn't have our QB for Elon or Samford, ETSU we led most of game), but I would have to think that it's pretty easy for them to get a list of team's records minus non-D1 games.
Lamar beat NAIA Kentucky Christian 70-7 the first game of the season giving them 7 wins on the season. Are we saying the committee did not look at that game and considered Lamar a 6-4 team? That means Furman and Lamar should have been looked at side by side since the records were the same. No way their wins/losses are so much better they make playoffs and Furman isn’t even on the bubble.

I say they did count the NAIA game, and I see no reason we shouldn’t take one if we can. There are downsides (if we lose, players get hurt, etc.) but the upside is there. Certainly better than leaving an open date on the schedule.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:06 pm
by paladinfan12
Ideally we gain a pioneer opponent - D1 win nearly guaranteed.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:11 pm
by fufanatic


So this video says the following:

"At any time during the process, the committee may consider comparative data of individual teams, including but not limited to:

A: Overall Record

B: Record against D1 opponents (An institution with less than six D1 wins may place that team in jeopardy of not being selected)"

So on and so on.

So we had 6 D1 wins, Lamar had 6 (7 overall) and UIW had 6. I don't see anywhere else in the video where it says that non-D1 games don't count, but it sounds like D1 games are important. So maybe Lamar did get an edge over the other two based on non-D1 win? I guess I don't really know.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:23 pm
by apaladin
fufanatic wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:11 pm


So this video says the following:

"At any time during the process, the committee may consider comparative data of individual teams, including but not limited to:

A: Overall Record

B: Record against D1 opponents (An institution with less than six D1 wins may place that team in jeopardy of not being selected)"

So on and so on.

So we had 6 D1 wins, Lamar had 6 (7 overall) and UIW had 6. I don't see anywhere else in the video where it says that non-D1 games don't count, but it sounds like D1 games are important. So maybe Lamar did get an edge over the other two based on non-D1 win? I guess I don't really know.
It really does. It says record against D1 opponents which would exclude non-D1.

Re: Efforts to Schedule Another Home Game in 2019

PostPosted:Wed Dec 05, 2018 2:25 pm
by FUBeAR
paladinfan12 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:06 pm
Ideally we gain a pioneer opponent - D1 win nearly guaranteed.
Are you a Coach or a Player for Iowa State?