Page 1 of 5
My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:07 pm
by fu77fan
My opinion is that we were awful last spring and we are awful now!
And unless there are major changes , we will be awful next year.
Inconsistent.
Inconsistent.
IMHO, we are not making progress.
We are heading in the wrong direction !!
The buck stops with the head coach !
I no longer have any confidence whatsoever in our head coach!
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:10 pm
by MidlandsPaladin
If you have any belief that Jace is our QB of the future, he needs to be on the field every chance he gets. Musical quarterbacks add to the inconstancy. Time to win or lose with Jace at this point in the season.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:16 pm
by purplehorse
Agree 100 % with the above two posts.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:24 pm
by paladinduece
How a contract extension was ever brought up, much less executed, after watching this dumpster fire I cannot understand. Program is doomed with this HC and staff.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:27 pm
by fu77fan
We have lost 7 of our last 9 So Con games.
We beat Wofford and Citadel who both suck worse than we do !
Unbelievable!!!!!
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:09 pm
by FU3
Here is a statistic that is pretty unique . In the past 2 complete games we have thrown for less than 150 yards.. in total! Makes Sorrels O look like the greatest show on turf.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:25 pm
by Affirm
paladinduece wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:24 pm
How a contract extension was ever brought up, much less executed, after watching this dumpster fire I cannot understand. Program is doomed with this HC and staff.
CCH has a long-range plan to be good. Worry not.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:46 pm
by paladinduece
affirm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:25 pm
paladinduece wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:24 pm
How a contract extension was ever brought up, much less executed, after watching this dumpster fire I cannot understand. Program is doomed with this HC and staff.
CCH has a long-range plan to be good. Worry not.
Just checking to make sure the kool aid isn’t spiked.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:06 pm
by FU3
affirm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:25 pm
paladinduece wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:24 pm
How a contract extension was ever brought up, much less executed, after watching this dumpster fire I cannot understand. Program is doomed with this HC and staff.
CCH has a long-range plan to be good. Worry not.
Aren’t you always waxing on about the great fortune we have in the leadership of President Davis. Given her apparent unilateral involvement in other athletic endeavors it is inconceivable that she wasn’t the person who would have authorized the rather strangely timed 5 year CCH contract extension. I guess these moves are more 5 dimensional chess from her … keep us informed.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:32 pm
by Jasper
No panic. No need to do anything drastic at all. Furman has suffered through two decades of terrible coaching covering two regimes. Both of those mistakes were the result of not choosing the best available candidate but in choosing someone with a Furman pedigree. Both men were career assistants for 20 years with modest resumes. We have excellent players right now. A good coach could make an immediate, positive difference with this program. Giving the incumbent a raise and an extension was an unforced error. Do not blow up the whole thing because of that mistake. Correct it. Start a comprehensive search for an exciting and energetic young coach with ambition who is on the way up in his career. If he is great, he won’t stay more than 3-4 years than on to the next breakout guy. We have a lot of good kids on this team who deserve better than we have given them.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:03 pm
by FU3
I hope by good young coach you mean an O Coordinator because there is absolutely no way FU has the capacity to buy out a 4 year HC deal, that just isn’t going to happen.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:48 pm
by apaladin
paladinduece wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:24 pm
How a contract extension was ever brought up, much less executed, after watching this dumpster fire I cannot understand. Program is doomed with this HC and staff.
I think JD gave the extrndion knowing it would be hard to justify it at years end if things didn’t go well which had a high probabilty chance. I mean who wants to go thru the headache of a coaching search?
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:55 pm
by Affirm
FU3 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:06 pm
affirm wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:25 pm
paladinduece wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:24 pm
How a contract extension was ever brought up, much less executed, after watching this dumpster fire I cannot understand. Program is doomed with this HC and staff.
CCH has a long-range plan to be good. Worry not.
Aren’t you always waxing on about the great fortune we have in the leadership of President Davis. Given her apparent unilateral involvement in other athletic endeavors it is inconceivable that she wasn’t the person who would have authorized the rather strangely timed 5 year CCH contract extension. I guess these moves are more 5 dimensional chess from her … keep us informed.
Answering your question: No.
Answering your directive: No.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:01 pm
by FUpaladin08
MidlandsPaladin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:10 pm
If you have any belief that Jace is our QB of the future, he needs to be on the field every chance he gets. Musical quarterbacks add to the inconstancy. Time to win or lose with Jace at this point in the season.
Eh while I agree we need to stick with one QB, the change today didn’t lose the game. The offense finally scored enough to win. I’d even challenge yall to pull the box scores of the games this year, cover the QB name with your thumb, and guess if it’s Hamp or Jace. QB play has been mediocre this year and it hasn’t really mattered who’s back there. I’d argue that’s bc the OL has been somewhere between inconsistent and awful, causing the running game to be inconsistent. We’ve been able to score when we’ve been able to run the ball. I will say that the best game at QB this year belongs to Hamp against NC A&T.
I’m not completely up on the redshirt rules but we might not see Jace the rest of the year. He got some great snaps and is better for it, but I do think he took snaps in 5 games. So again, not sure if redshirt rules are snaps or games. If he preserved his redshirt and got critical playing time then kudos to the CCH. If he lost his redshirt against UTC I’d question CCH on that.
Re: My Opinion
PostPosted:Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:35 pm
by apaladin
FUpaladin08 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:01 pm
MidlandsPaladin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:10 pm
If you have any belief that Jace is our QB of the future, he needs to be on the field every chance he gets. Musical quarterbacks add to the inconstancy. Time to win or lose with Jace at this point in the season.
Eh while I agree we need to stick with one QB, the change today didn’t lose the game. The offense finally scored enough to win. I’d even challenge yall to pull the box scores of the games this year, cover the QB name with your thumb, and guess if it’s Hamp or Jace. QB play has been mediocre this year and it hasn’t really mattered who’s back there. I’d argue that’s bc the OL has been somewhere between inconsistent and awful, causing the running game to be inconsistent. We’ve been able to score when we’ve been able to run the ball. I will say that the best game at QB this year belongs to Hamp against NC A&T.
I’m not completely up on the redshirt rules but we might not see Jace the rest of the year. He got some great snaps and is better for it, but I do think he took snaps in 5 games. So again, not sure if redshirt rules are snaps or games. If he preserved his redshirt and got critical playing time then kudos to the CCH. If he lost his redshirt against UTC I’d question CCH on that.
Say it again. Jace played the last quarter or so of the Mercer game. He started 4 games. He is not eligible for a redshirt. I think you are missing the point on the qb situation. HS is not going to get any better. JW may or may not get better and that is why he should be playing to find out. Not saying JW is better but he might have an upside but HS does not. Neither can throw the ball efficiently and that is a huge problem.