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THank you for this update!apaladin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:32 pmI assume most of us heard the L&L today but those that might have missed it, here are some highlights:
1. JD tried to explain the reasons behind shutting down baseball and lacrosse. Still don’t understand but that could just be me. He did say they would have loved to have kept baseball but if that is the case why were efforts to do so shot down? Anyway he left the door open for its return “someday”.
2. As we thought, FU could have played some interesting games with some good paydays but chose not to.
2A. We got nothing for the UT game. There was a pandemic clause. If the UT game had not been cancelled they may have played this fall, but as stated there were other opportunities so why not?
3. The conference was divided about playing in the fall, FU was for playing.
4. The plan is to play all fall sports in the spring. I think JD thinks this will happen.
5. We have a great basketball schedule but he offered no info on it or when/if it will be released.
6. Some upgrades to Paladin Stadium including removing every other row in the purple section for more leg room and the section is now larger. Some landscaping to provide tailgating for students. I think this is inside PS but not sure. He did not address how to keep students there. The seats on the visitors side have been painted purple as Flagman previously reported.
7. Still trying to get Timmons renovated. There is a plan but no mention of what or when.
8. Should know more about moving forward the middle of the month with plans etc.
That’s about it. Anyone that can add, please do.
Re 1. I had a colleague once that would often quip, "I've never met a problem cash can't solve." I believe that applies to baseball and lacrosse as well.apaladin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:32 pmI assume most of us heard the L&L today but those that might have missed it, here are some highlights:
1. JD tried to explain the reasons behind shutting down baseball and lacrosse. Still don’t understand but that could just be me. He did say they would have loved to have kept baseball but if that is the case why were efforts to do so shot down? Anyway he left the door open for its return “someday”.
2. As we thought, FU could have played some interesting games with some good paydays but chose not to.
2A. We got nothing for the UT game. There was a pandemic clause. If the UT game had not been cancelled they may have played this fall, but as stated there were other opportunities so why not?
3. The conference was divided about playing in the fall, FU was for playing.
4. The plan is to play all fall sports in the spring. I think JD thinks this will happen.
5. We have a great basketball schedule but he offered no info on it or when/if it will be released.
6. Some upgrades to Paladin Stadium including removing every other row in the purple section for more leg room and the section is now larger. Some landscaping to provide tailgating for students. I think this is inside PS but not sure. He did not address how to keep students there. The seats on the visitors side have been painted purple as Flagman previously reported.
7. Still trying to get Timmons renovated. There is a plan but no mention of what or when.
8. Should know more about moving forward the middle of the month with plans etc.
That’s about it. Anyone that can add, please do.
I hope playing well gets students interested, but I’m not sure it will. Fewer and fewer HS kids give a rip unless their team is super good. Even then, the smart kids will usually tell you they just “aren’t into sports”. They don’t play anything, and they don’t watch. Well, OK, some play Madden. These are the kids who go to places like FU. It’s just the way it is. If you’re good at school, you obviously aren’t an athlete. If you’re an athlete you shouldn’t be a “try hard” in school. That’s the culture.The Jackal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:53 amRe 1. I had a colleague once that would often quip, "I've never met a problem cash can't solve." I believe that applies to baseball and lacrosse as well.apaladin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:32 pmI assume most of us heard the L&L today but those that might have missed it, here are some highlights:
1. JD tried to explain the reasons behind shutting down baseball and lacrosse. Still don’t understand but that could just be me. He did say they would have loved to have kept baseball but if that is the case why were efforts to do so shot down? Anyway he left the door open for its return “someday”.
2. As we thought, FU could have played some interesting games with some good paydays but chose not to.
2A. We got nothing for the UT game. There was a pandemic clause. If the UT game had not been cancelled they may have played this fall, but as stated there were other opportunities so why not?
3. The conference was divided about playing in the fall, FU was for playing.
4. The plan is to play all fall sports in the spring. I think JD thinks this will happen.
5. We have a great basketball schedule but he offered no info on it or when/if it will be released.
6. Some upgrades to Paladin Stadium including removing every other row in the purple section for more leg room and the section is now larger. Some landscaping to provide tailgating for students. I think this is inside PS but not sure. He did not address how to keep students there. The seats on the visitors side have been painted purple as Flagman previously reported.
7. Still trying to get Timmons renovated. There is a plan but no mention of what or when.
8. Should know more about moving forward the middle of the month with plans etc.
That’s about it. Anyone that can add, please do.
Re 2A. If there was a sure enough "pandemic clause" in the contract, someone at UT owes some attorney a bottle of something.
Re 6. Paladin Stadium could use some TLC. I'd love to see some landscaping, new field house, rebuilt the visitors stands, etc. Again, see response to point 1.
Students will stay at football games when the football game is more entertaining than whatever else they could be doing. Furman also has to contend with the fact that they let 10 or 15 years go by with "disengaged" recent grads whose time spent at Furman was replete with football that was either bad or rebuilding.
To that point, I would be curious to know how many posters/lurkers on this forum are "recent" grads between, say, 2010 and 2019. I think this group is probably among the more invested emotionally in Furman football.
Re 7. See response to point 1.
We agree on something!Furmanoid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:55 amI hope playing well gets students interested, but I’m not sure it will. Fewer and fewer HS kids give a rip unless their team is super good. Even then, the smart kids will usually tell you they just “aren’t into sports”. They don’t play anything, and they don’t watch. Well, OK, some play Madden. These are the kids who go to places like FU. It’s just the way it is. If you’re good at school, you obviously aren’t an athlete. If you’re an athlete you shouldn’t be a “try hard” in school. That’s the culture.The Jackal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:53 amRe 1. I had a colleague once that would often quip, "I've never met a problem cash can't solve." I believe that applies to baseball and lacrosse as well.apaladin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:32 pmI assume most of us heard the L&L today but those that might have missed it, here are some highlights:
1. JD tried to explain the reasons behind shutting down baseball and lacrosse. Still don’t understand but that could just be me. He did say they would have loved to have kept baseball but if that is the case why were efforts to do so shot down? Anyway he left the door open for its return “someday”.
2. As we thought, FU could have played some interesting games with some good paydays but chose not to.
2A. We got nothing for the UT game. There was a pandemic clause. If the UT game had not been cancelled they may have played this fall, but as stated there were other opportunities so why not?
3. The conference was divided about playing in the fall, FU was for playing.
4. The plan is to play all fall sports in the spring. I think JD thinks this will happen.
5. We have a great basketball schedule but he offered no info on it or when/if it will be released.
6. Some upgrades to Paladin Stadium including removing every other row in the purple section for more leg room and the section is now larger. Some landscaping to provide tailgating for students. I think this is inside PS but not sure. He did not address how to keep students there. The seats on the visitors side have been painted purple as Flagman previously reported.
7. Still trying to get Timmons renovated. There is a plan but no mention of what or when.
8. Should know more about moving forward the middle of the month with plans etc.
That’s about it. Anyone that can add, please do.
Re 2A. If there was a sure enough "pandemic clause" in the contract, someone at UT owes some attorney a bottle of something.
Re 6. Paladin Stadium could use some TLC. I'd love to see some landscaping, new field house, rebuilt the visitors stands, etc. Again, see response to point 1.
Students will stay at football games when the football game is more entertaining than whatever else they could be doing. Furman also has to contend with the fact that they let 10 or 15 years go by with "disengaged" recent grads whose time spent at Furman was replete with football that was either bad or rebuilding.
To that point, I would be curious to know how many posters/lurkers on this forum are "recent" grads between, say, 2010 and 2019. I think this group is probably among the more invested emotionally in Furman football.
Re 7. See response to point 1.
To get their minds right, I can think of a couple of options. The simple one is to make football games CLP’s. Another option that might appeal more to them would be to get a retired coach to teach a mandatory in-depth fb course getting into evolution of offensive and defensive schemes, coverages, blocking schemes, clock management, NCAA rules etc. - all the complex geeky stuff that might appeal to our students and show them FB is an intellectual endeavor. This will also make them seem less Furmanish when they’re out in the workforce.
Have always thought making Furman athletics CLP events was a no-brainer. If I can learn something about culture and society from a mandatory theatre performance or concert, someone who knows very little about sports and it's cultural appeal could certainly learn something from attending a football game or sold out MBB game at Timmons. Would love to know if this has ever been discussed.1) Love the CLP idea - have always said thatFurmanoid wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:55 amI hope playing well gets students interested, but I’m not sure it will. Fewer and fewer HS kids give a rip unless their team is super good. Even then, the smart kids will usually tell you they just “aren’t into sports”. They don’t play anything, and they don’t watch. Well, OK, some play Madden. These are the kids who go to places like FU. It’s just the way it is. If you’re good at school, you obviously aren’t an athlete. If you’re an athlete you shouldn’t be a “try hard” in school. That’s the culture.The Jackal wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:53 amRe 1. I had a colleague once that would often quip, "I've never met a problem cash can't solve." I believe that applies to baseball and lacrosse as well.apaladin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:32 pmI assume most of us heard the L&L today but those that might have missed it, here are some highlights:
1. JD tried to explain the reasons behind shutting down baseball and lacrosse. Still don’t understand but that could just be me. He did say they would have loved to have kept baseball but if that is the case why were efforts to do so shot down? Anyway he left the door open for its return “someday”.
2. As we thought, FU could have played some interesting games with some good paydays but chose not to.
2A. We got nothing for the UT game. There was a pandemic clause. If the UT game had not been cancelled they may have played this fall, but as stated there were other opportunities so why not?
3. The conference was divided about playing in the fall, FU was for playing.
4. The plan is to play all fall sports in the spring. I think JD thinks this will happen.
5. We have a great basketball schedule but he offered no info on it or when/if it will be released.
6. Some upgrades to Paladin Stadium including removing every other row in the purple section for more leg room and the section is now larger. Some landscaping to provide tailgating for students. I think this is inside PS but not sure. He did not address how to keep students there. The seats on the visitors side have been painted purple as Flagman previously reported.
7. Still trying to get Timmons renovated. There is a plan but no mention of what or when.
8. Should know more about moving forward the middle of the month with plans etc.
That’s about it. Anyone that can add, please do.
Re 2A. If there was a sure enough "pandemic clause" in the contract, someone at UT owes some attorney a bottle of something.
Re 6. Paladin Stadium could use some TLC. I'd love to see some landscaping, new field house, rebuilt the visitors stands, etc. Again, see response to point 1.
Students will stay at football games when the football game is more entertaining than whatever else they could be doing. Furman also has to contend with the fact that they let 10 or 15 years go by with "disengaged" recent grads whose time spent at Furman was replete with football that was either bad or rebuilding.
To that point, I would be curious to know how many posters/lurkers on this forum are "recent" grads between, say, 2010 and 2019. I think this group is probably among the more invested emotionally in Furman football.
Re 7. See response to point 1.
To get their minds right, I can think of a couple of options. The simple one is to make football games CLP’s. Another option that might appeal more to them would be to get a retired coach to teach a mandatory in-depth fb course getting into evolution of offensive and defensive schemes, coverages, blocking schemes, clock management, NCAA rules etc. - all the complex geeky stuff that might appeal to our students and show them FB is an intellectual endeavor. This will also make them seem less Furmanish when they’re out in the workforce.
Just listened to JD’s comments about Mercer’s “philosophy” regarding Health & Wellness of their Student Body & Student Athletes. Placing his comments in context with the preceding comments about concern over the Heath & Safety of FU Student Athletes, it’s hard to say he did anything but toss the Bears under the wheels of an oncoming Greyhound.
FUBeAR wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:02 pmJust listened to JD’s comments about Mercer’s “philosophy” regarding Health & Wellness of their Student Body & Student Athletes. Placing his comments in context with the preceding comments about concern over the Heath & Safety of FU Student Athletes, it’s hard to say he did anything but toss the Bears under the wheels of an oncoming Greyhound.
Can only speak from my 8 years of involvement with Mercer, Mercer’s President, Mercer’s AD, other Sr. Level Administrators of Mercer U., other Sr. Level Administrators in Mercer’s Athletics Department, and members of the former (and a few of the current) Football Coaching Staff. Have seen nothing but love & great concern & compassion for Mercer’s Students & Student Athletes from each & every one of these individuals.
If I had a son who played Football, I would have zero hesitation about entrusting his Health & Wellness to Mercer University & Mercer Football, just as I would have no hesitation doing the same with Clay Hendrix and Furman Football. Actually, FUBeAR has already done both of those in a kinda sorta kinda way.
Maybe, I’m wrong. Maybe, that’s not how JD meant what he said or maybe Mercer has just pulled the Bear fur over FUBeAR’s eyes for 8 years.