• Other Games/Teams

 #18113  by apaladin
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:29 am
VMI 34 Citadel 21
VMI held Citadel to 78 yds. rushing on 39 attempts. VMI rushed for only 87 yds. but threw for 335. Citadel thew the ball 34 times. Has to be a record for them.
Our 2 FBS teams won today:
VPI 42 Miami 35
GSU 52 Arkansas St. 38

WCU will not win a Div. 1 game this year. Mercer may not win another game this year.

Right now UTC and WC are the next 2 teams nearest to FU.
 #18114  by gofurman
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:29 am
apaladin wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:29 am
VMI 34 Citadel 21
VMI held Citadel to 78 yds. rushing on 39 attempts. VMI rushed for only 87 yds. but threw for 335. Citadel thew the ball 34 times. Has to be a record for them.
Our 2 FBS teams won today:
VPI 42 Miami 35
GSU 52 Arkansas St. 38

WCU will not win a Div. 1 game this year. Mercer may not win another game this year.

Right now UTC and WC are the next 2 teams nearest to FU.
AP, I have the same takeaway in my thread on ranking socon teams... please put your full ranking there if you want. Would appreciate some input.
 #18120  by stonemd
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:03 am
Of the 5 socon games the visitors won each game!
has that ever happened?
 #18121  by The Jackal
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:35 am
STATS has us 14th going into Saturday.

#11 Central Ark. lost to #16 Nicholls
#10 Illinois State lost to #1 NDSU
#12 UC Davis lost to North Dakota (unranked)

So, we may see Furman move up a few spots with a convincing win on the road.
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 #18142  by gofurman
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:25 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:35 am
STATS has us 14th going into Saturday.

#11 Central Ark. lost to #16 Nicholls
#10 Illinois State lost to #1 NDSU
#12 UC Davis lost to North Dakota (unranked)

So, we may see Furman move up a few spots with a convincing win on the road.
Jackal, I was looking at that too - UCA vs nicholls may be one of those where Nicholls jumps us and UCA falls below us and we stay pat - we could drop a spot if Nicholls jumps us and UCA stays above us. The UC Davis is good -that has to help. Not sure how much they punish ISU for losing to NDSU - everyone does.. lol
 #18156  by FUpaladin08
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:13 pm
gofurman wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:25 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:35 am
STATS has us 14th going into Saturday.

#11 Central Ark. lost to #16 Nicholls
#10 Illinois State lost to #1 NDSU
#12 UC Davis lost to North Dakota (unranked)

So, we may see Furman move up a few spots with a convincing win on the road.
Jackal, I was looking at that too - UCA vs nicholls may be one of those where Nicholls jumps us and UCA falls below us and we stay pat - we could drop a spot if Nicholls jumps us and UCA stays above us. The UC Davis is good -that has to help. Not sure how much they punish ISU for losing to NDSU - everyone does.. lol
UCD has lost to good teams, but at a certain point you have to penalize them for those losses. FU has not lost to an FCS team this year.
 #18166  by Flagman
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:58 pm
Do we do any lobbying to the voters, promoting our success?
 #18168  by gman
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:31 pm
Flagman wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:58 pm
Do we do any lobbying to the voters, promoting our success?
I hope that is not allowed. Lobbyists should be outlawed!
 #18178  by gofurman
 Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:23 pm
FUpaladin08 wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:13 pm
gofurman wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:25 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:35 am
STATS has us 14th going into Saturday.

#11 Central Ark. lost to #16 Nicholls
#10 Illinois State lost to #1 NDSU
#12 UC Davis lost to North Dakota (unranked)

So, we may see Furman move up a few spots with a convincing win on the road.
Jackal, I was looking at that too - UCA vs nicholls may be one of those where Nicholls jumps us and UCA falls below us and we stay pat - we could drop a spot if Nicholls jumps us and UCA stays above us. The UC Davis is good -that has to help. Not sure how much they punish ISU for losing to NDSU - everyone does.. lol
UCD has lost to good teams, but at a certain point you have to penalize them for those losses. FU has not lost to an FCS team this year.
using STATS or COACHES it is fair:
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?div=fcs


Fupaladin8, Agreed. That is what I said.. UCD is the one that will help us. standing at 12 in last weeks poll they lost to an unranked and they will fall below Furman (14). They will. We are 14th in both polls. The others are questionable as the two teams are right above and below us which is tricky. For instance, Nicholls is just below us at 16.. and they beat UCA at 11 so Nicholls could jump us and UCA fall below us - which would be correct and yet Furman not move. We could not complain about that.. I mean, if we are 14th.. and 16 beats 11 - well, 16 goes to 11 and 11 goes to 16 and Furman, for that case, stays unchanged at 14.

Now what could be tough is if 16 jumps us because they beat up number 11 while we beat on an unranked ORV... that's fair. But if 11 doesn't fall below us because they lost but it was to 16. Then we actually lose a spot ! But lets see what happens. We started the year at 20 in both polls (roughly) .. now we are 14th.. we continue to move up and you also need to look at vote count. We are getting more votes now by far ! We started w 1000 votes in stats (look at my link and change back to preseason) and now we have 1900 before tomorrows vote... we have almost doubled ouir voted count in STATS. not sure what our vote count was to start year in COACHES but we were about 20th and now 14th.

All that said, it is fair when you look at the prior week's ranking and what happened. Hopefully we jump over Illinois State in STATS maybe.. not happening in COACHES poll as they are 6th and lost to NDSU.. probably fall to 11th or so but will not affect us and honestly, shouldn't ... if they lose again we will move up

We probably move up 1 in both polls tomorrow is my guess.
 #18216  by FUpaladin08
 Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:54 am
Fupaladin8, Agreed. That is what I said.. UCD is the one that will help us. standing at 12 in last weeks poll they lost to an unranked and they will fall below Furman (14). They will. We are 14th in both polls. The others are questionable as the two teams are right above and below us which is tricky. For instance, Nicholls is just below us at 16.. and they beat UCA at 11 so Nicholls could jump us and UCA fall below us - which would be correct and yet Furman not move. We could not complain about that.. I mean, if we are 14th.. and 16 beats 11 - well, 16 goes to 11 and 11 goes to 16 and Furman, for that case, stays unchanged at 14.
My bad, went cross-eyes on ucd and uca.

I’d argue 16 beating 11 isn’t such a great feat that they switch positions. 11 needs to drop enough to be behind 16, but 12-15 get credit for their wins too. I’d drop UCA to 16 and move everyone up one spot (except obviously UCD).
 #18248  by gofurman
 Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:09 pm
FUpaladin08 wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:54 am
Fupaladin8, Agreed. That is what I said.. UCD is the one that will help us. standing at 12 in last weeks poll they lost to an unranked and they will fall below Furman (14). They will. We are 14th in both polls. The others are questionable as the two teams are right above and below us which is tricky. For instance, Nicholls is just below us at 16.. and they beat UCA at 11 so Nicholls could jump us and UCA fall below us - which would be correct and yet Furman not move. We could not complain about that.. I mean, if we are 14th.. and 16 beats 11 - well, 16 goes to 11 and 11 goes to 16 and Furman, for that case, stays unchanged at 14.
My bad, went cross-eyes on ucd and uca.

I’d argue 16 beating 11 isn’t such a great feat that they switch positions. 11 needs to drop enough to be behind 16, but 12-15 get credit for their wins too. I’d drop UCA to 16 and move everyone up one spot (except obviously UCD).
STATS has us 14th going into Saturday.

#11 Central Ark. lost to #16 Nicholls
#10 Illinois State lost to #1 NDSU
#12 UC Davis lost to North Dakota (unranked)

--- well, we cannot complain . WeE got the boost above all the teams we mentioned... UCD and UCA and Nichols and Illinois State so we are 11th
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