Looks like the Big Sky and the MVFC are gonna try to talk everybody into a spring season and playoffs. I have a feeling they’ll just shut it down again when it’s time to play.
No 2020 Season
The dominoes are falling. Despite Clay’s video following today’s practice, we might not see football this fall.
Anyone who says money can't buy happiness never had season tickets.
“Four FCS Conferences Remain: Will They Play In Fall?” https://herosports.com/college-football ... main-ajaj/
May be a head fake, but my guess is UTC isn't the hold up in the SoCon.
Roundball is incorrect. There are no confirmed instances of a child infecting their teacher anywhere in the world. There are only a small handful of cases where a child transmitted to a parent- TWO instances in Iceland. And before someone replies with studies from Italy and Chicago, those studies excluded asymptomatic children and only used 25 or less children in the study- all of whom were very ill (experiencing a vary rare degree of symptoms) and would obviously the easiest to detect and quarantine in a real world scenario.Roundball wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:52 amThe rest of the story is, these kids can spread the virus to their teachers, parents and grandparents. I don’t know how many more times it needs to be said, this virus is many times more worse than the flu. 160,000 deaths, in just 6 months. FWIW, new model the WH uses shows 300,000 deaths by December if we don’t get serious about wearing a mask and social distancing. http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updatesFUBeAR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:47 pm
...this dude is the head of the CDC. He mentions July...so it’s recent.
Risk of Covid mortality for school-age peeps = 1 / 1,000,000
There are about 10,000 FCS Football Players
Per a 2013 NIH study ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23477766/ )...”Results: Football fatalities averaged 12.2 per year, or 1 per 100,000 participants.”
...So, just by playing the game of Football, Players are 10x more at risk of mortality than they are if they ‘catch’ Covid (whether or not they are playing football)
Seems like we’re swatting at a gnat on our nose, while an alligator is chewing off our leg.
If we (NCAA, University Presidents & AD’s, Conference Commissioners, and Players) are risk averse enough to be cancelling football games in 2020 because of Covid, it seems to FUBeAR that they ought to be focused on ‘Cancelling’ the sport of Football forever. Obviously, the sport exceeds our risk tolerance level by a factor of at least 10x.
No?
Well...maybe, for some reason, this year, this Fall particularly, our collective societal risk tolerance level is much lower than it was in 2019 and than it will be in a few months or so.
Second, masks don't work. Many locations around the world where strict mask mandates have been in place for months are now experiencing 2nd waves. Hong Kong, Philippines, Hawaii. Studies after the first SARS in Asia found cloth masks protected less than no mask. Only one study I'm aware of has been done on Covid-19 and masks and that was in Denmark in the last month. The findings have not been released, but the government of Denmark has still refused to mandate masks except for on public transportation where distancing is not possible. You can't stop a respiratory virus because everyone has to breathe.
On March 31 -(from AP) "the White House projected there could be 100,000 to 240,000 deaths in the U.S. from the coronavirus pandemic even if current social distancing guidelines are maintained."That was supposed to happen in the first weeks of April. Here we are below 160K more than 3 months later. Bill Gates's foundation and the IHME have been wrong repeatedly and have to keep releasing new downgraded numbers.
Bottom line: the virus is very real, but the panic is WAY overblown. Folks with health problems and those over 70 are at some risk and should be concerned, but young and middle aged adults should take a few reasonable precautions and soldier on. Deaths from shutdowns and economic damage will quickly outpace the virus totals if we don't get back to life very soon.
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I believe the handwriting might be on the wall for the fall season. Given where we are the opportunity to perhaps get a full spring season (with a possible vaccine) may be the best of some non ideal options.
When school starts back, there will be kids that pass the virus on. To say masks don’t work is pure nonsense. Study after study shows that fact.fupaladin01 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 3:37 pmRoundball is incorrect. There are no confirmed instances of a child infecting their teacher anywhere in the world. There are only a small handful of cases where a child transmitted to a parent- TWO instances in Iceland. And before someone replies with studies from Italy and Chicago, those studies excluded asymptomatic children and only used 25 or less children in the study- all of whom were very ill (experiencing a vary rare degree of symptoms) and would obviously the easiest to detect and quarantine in a real world scenario.Roundball wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:52 amThe rest of the story is, these kids can spread the virus to their teachers, parents and grandparents. I don’t know how many more times it needs to be said, this virus is many times more worse than the flu. 160,000 deaths, in just 6 months. FWIW, new model the WH uses shows 300,000 deaths by December if we don’t get serious about wearing a mask and social distancing. http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updatesFUBeAR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:47 pm
...this dude is the head of the CDC. He mentions July...so it’s recent.
Risk of Covid mortality for school-age peeps = 1 / 1,000,000
There are about 10,000 FCS Football Players
Per a 2013 NIH study ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23477766/ )...”Results: Football fatalities averaged 12.2 per year, or 1 per 100,000 participants.”
...So, just by playing the game of Football, Players are 10x more at risk of mortality than they are if they ‘catch’ Covid (whether or not they are playing football)
Seems like we’re swatting at a gnat on our nose, while an alligator is chewing off our leg.
If we (NCAA, University Presidents & AD’s, Conference Commissioners, and Players) are risk averse enough to be cancelling football games in 2020 because of Covid, it seems to FUBeAR that they ought to be focused on ‘Cancelling’ the sport of Football forever. Obviously, the sport exceeds our risk tolerance level by a factor of at least 10x.
No?
Well...maybe, for some reason, this year, this Fall particularly, our collective societal risk tolerance level is much lower than it was in 2019 and than it will be in a few months or so.
Second, masks don't work. Many locations around the world where strict mask mandates have been in place for months are now experiencing 2nd waves. Hong Kong, Philippines, Hawaii. Studies after the first SARS in Asia found cloth masks protected less than no mask. Only one study I'm aware of has been done on Covid-19 and masks and that was in Denmark in the last month. The findings have not been released, but the government of Denmark has still refused to mandate masks except for on public transportation where distancing is not possible. You can't stop a respiratory virus because everyone has to breathe.
On March 31 -(from AP) "the White House projected there could be 100,000 to 240,000 deaths in the U.S. from the coronavirus pandemic even if current social distancing guidelines are maintained."That was supposed to happen in the first weeks of April. Here we are below 160K more than 3 months later. Bill Gates's foundation and the IHME have been wrong repeatedly and have to keep releasing new downgraded numbers.
Bottom line: the virus is very real, but the panic is WAY overblown. Folks with health problems and those over 70 are at some risk and should be concerned, but young and middle aged adults should take a few reasonable precautions and soldier on. Deaths from shutdowns and economic damage will quickly outpace the virus totals if we don't get back to life very soon.
Now, those guys, those 34, even FUBeAR understands that mentality. Frankly, I’m shocked each year when even 1 player does show up to bellhop fall football camp
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NCAA MANUAL
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
They have more problems than 34 not showing up. The excellent VMI running back transfer (Ramsey) has opted out for the season. In addition some of the no shows are in a public Twitter back and forth with HC concerning safety issues.
About spreading it to teachers, parents and grandparents, how would that really happen? Professors can easily stay 6’ away from students at a place like FU where you only have about 15 people in class. They will also be wearing masks. And the players will have too low of a viral load to cause symptoms or pop a positive. It’s the other students they need to worry about.Roundball wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:52 amThe rest of the story is, these kids can spread the virus to their teachers, parents and grandparents. I don’t know how many more times it needs to be said, this virus is many times more worse than the flu. 160,000 deaths, in just 6 months. FWIW, new model the WH uses shows 300,000 deaths by December if we don’t get serious about wearing a mask and social distancing. http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updatesFUBeAR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:47 pm
...this dude is the head of the CDC. He mentions July...so it’s recent.
Risk of Covid mortality for school-age peeps = 1 / 1,000,000
There are about 10,000 FCS Football Players
Per a 2013 NIH study ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23477766/ )...”Results: Football fatalities averaged 12.2 per year, or 1 per 100,000 participants.”
...So, just by playing the game of Football, Players are 10x more at risk of mortality than they are if they ‘catch’ Covid (whether or not they are playing football)
Seems like we’re swatting at a gnat on our nose, while an alligator is chewing off our leg.
If we (NCAA, University Presidents & AD’s, Conference Commissioners, and Players) are risk averse enough to be cancelling football games in 2020 because of Covid, it seems to FUBeAR that they ought to be focused on ‘Cancelling’ the sport of Football forever. Obviously, the sport exceeds our risk tolerance level by a factor of at least 10x.
No?
Well...maybe, for some reason, this year, this Fall particularly, our collective societal risk tolerance level is much lower than it was in 2019 and than it will be in a few months or so.
And when are these guys hanging out with their parents and grandparents? Who does that when they’re college age? If they’re playing fb, when would they even have time to go home? Besides, if their grandparents don’t have enough sense to stay away from potentially diseased college boys, that’s on them.
The CDC guy is referring to school aged children. Those are the kids he was talking about, many of whom live with a grandparent.Furmanoid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:33 pmAbout spreading it to teachers, parents and grandparents, how would that really happen? Professors can easily stay 6’ away from students at a place like FU where you only have about 15 people in class. They will also be wearing masks. And the players will have too low of a viral load to cause symptoms or pop a positive. It’s the other students they need to worry about.Roundball wrote: ↑Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:52 amThe rest of the story is, these kids can spread the virus to their teachers, parents and grandparents. I don’t know how many more times it needs to be said, this virus is many times more worse than the flu. 160,000 deaths, in just 6 months. FWIW, new model the WH uses shows 300,000 deaths by December if we don’t get serious about wearing a mask and social distancing. http://www.healthdata.org/covid/updatesFUBeAR wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:47 pm
...this dude is the head of the CDC. He mentions July...so it’s recent.
Risk of Covid mortality for school-age peeps = 1 / 1,000,000
There are about 10,000 FCS Football Players
Per a 2013 NIH study ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23477766/ )...”Results: Football fatalities averaged 12.2 per year, or 1 per 100,000 participants.”
...So, just by playing the game of Football, Players are 10x more at risk of mortality than they are if they ‘catch’ Covid (whether or not they are playing football)
Seems like we’re swatting at a gnat on our nose, while an alligator is chewing off our leg.
If we (NCAA, University Presidents & AD’s, Conference Commissioners, and Players) are risk averse enough to be cancelling football games in 2020 because of Covid, it seems to FUBeAR that they ought to be focused on ‘Cancelling’ the sport of Football forever. Obviously, the sport exceeds our risk tolerance level by a factor of at least 10x.
No?
Well...maybe, for some reason, this year, this Fall particularly, our collective societal risk tolerance level is much lower than it was in 2019 and than it will be in a few months or so.
And when are these guys hanging out with their parents and grandparents? Who does that when they’re college age? If they’re playing fb, when would they even have time to go home? Besides, if their grandparents don’t have enough sense to stay away from potentially diseased college boys, that’s on them.
The last sentence says it. Yes, we know what is coming.
Actually study after study have shown masks don’t work. There has not been one confirmed case of a child transmitting it to an adult, As for JMU they had little choice as they only had 3 games. Who are they going play in the spring?
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