Wofford at Furman

[FUwolfpacker]

Colton Hinton is one of the fastest players in the SoCon and has had a tremendous year even though he is doubled on almost every pass play.

Hinton has plenty of speed for sure. Furman needs a guy to step up opposite of him to take some of the pressure off next year. I feel like he could have been used more pre snap to try and draw some defenders his way given how fast he is and how much pressure he can put on a team at the line of scrimmage. Maybe he has been and I just haven't noticed it.

Again, I think some of our issues in regards to the WRs are that 1) we haven't made good choices/throws when we've had guys open, 2) due to our lack of a running game we're playing behind the sticks so people know we have to throw, and 3) there is no real threat to play action (which is where I feel like we get a lot of our guys open on deep routes traditionally).

[The Jackal]

1. It's hard to really evaluate a QB when we can't run the ball.

2. Colton Hinton is electric, but was not supposed to be "THE" guy in this offense. He was supposed to be the dude in the slot always open while teams were struggling to cover Harris.

It's been a nightmare season. I feel a little better watching some traditional powerhouse programs (Michigan, Auburn, Southern Cal, etc.) struggle through similar growing pains this season. We aren't on an island in terms of having a surprisingly bad season.

[Affirm]

1. It's hard to really evaluate a QB when we can't run the ball.

2. Colton Hinton is electric, but was not supposed to be "THE" guy in this offense. He was supposed to be the dude in the slot always open while teams were struggling to cover Harris.

It's been a nightmare season. I feel a little better watching some traditional powerhouse programs (Michigan, Auburn, Southern Cal, etc.) struggle through similar growing pains this season. We aren't on an island in terms of having a surprisingly bad season.

You are generally correct about comparing our woes to those of Michigan, Auburn, SC, but I will mention that each of those specific good examples is going to have a W-L record/percentage at least twice as good as we are going to have. Not only that, but they each have some respectable scores against some “respectable opposition relative to their level” and are all 3 relatively higher rated in their national peer group than we are in ours. No, none of them are struggling as much as we are. Yes we do have a nightmare season.

[apaladin]

1. It's hard to really evaluate a QB when we can't run the ball.

2. Colton Hinton is electric, but was not supposed to be "THE" guy in this offense. He was supposed to be the dude in the slot always open while teams were struggling to cover Harris.

It's been a nightmare season. I feel a little better watching some traditional powerhouse programs (Michigan, Auburn, Southern Cal, etc.) struggle through similar growing pains this season. We aren't on an island in terms of having a surprisingly bad season.

I said before the best FBS comparison to FU is FSU. They were good last year but lost a lot of good players just like FU. Just like FU they were still highly ranked preseason, high expectations etc. They are now 1-8, their worst season in 50+ years just like FU and losing to teams they have never lost to.

[MidlandsPaladin]

1. It's hard to really evaluate a QB when we can't run the ball.

2. Colton Hinton is electric, but was not supposed to be "THE" guy in this offense. He was supposed to be the dude in the slot always open while teams were struggling to cover Harris.

It's been a nightmare season. I feel a little better watching some traditional powerhouse programs (Michigan, Auburn, Southern Cal, etc.) struggle through similar growing pains this season. We aren't on an island in terms of having a surprisingly bad season.

I said before the best FBS comparison to FU is FSU. They were good last year but lost a lot of good players just like FU. Just like FU they were still highly ranked preseason, high expectations etc. They are now 1-8, their worst season in 50+ years just like FU and losing to teams they have never lost to.

Mike Norvell at FSU also just fired his OC, DC, and Wide Receiver coach. I'm not advocating for staffing changes at FU - just pointing out the desperation that teams like FSU and FU must be feeling. There are correctable measures that I am sure are already being considered that come short of blowing up the program. Have faith in our staff - they haven't forgot how to win.

[gofurman]

1. It's hard to really evaluate a QB when we can't run the ball.

2. Colton Hinton is electric, but was not supposed to be "THE" guy in this offense. He was supposed to be the dude in the slot always open while teams were struggling to cover Harris.

It's been a nightmare season. I feel a little better watching some traditional powerhouse programs (Michigan, Auburn, Southern Cal, etc.) struggle through similar growing pains this season. We aren't on an island in terms of having a surprisingly bad season.

I said before the best FBS comparison to FU is FSU. They were good last year but lost a lot of good players just like FU. Just like FU they were still highly ranked preseason, high expectations etc. They are now 1-8, their worst season in 50+ years just like FU and losing to teams they have never lost to.

I know some think AP is "negative" but I want to back him here... I had some FSU / FU thoughts about game 6 or 7.... It's not just the names that are similar this year. Both started ranked top 15.. Both had wonderful years last year... Both started with new QBs this year... Both were better on D than O this year... The similarities are there

Jackal is on point that we just aren't helping our young QBs. No QB is very good without a run game. The opposing D only has to defend half the playbook... and worse our OL isn't able to pass block only a 4-man rush OR snap the ball... I heard Cole Neely or someone going ballistic that Western was getting in our backfield with a simple 4 man rush executing basic DL moves. Simple swim moves etc. Nothing exotic that we shouldn't know how to handle.

And yes - SPEED KILLS. Hinton needs a partner. Two speedy Wideouts (or one WR and one slot) are more than the combination of the individual parts. Hinton is a 1X. Hinton plus a Harris would be a 2.5X... like basketball you can double one great shooter - you can't double two shooters.

Hope we get a football win here at the end and, more importantly, improve, and find some answers coming next year whether via improvement... freshman/sophomore learning.. or some transfers

I still am a big advocate for a more mobile QB. It makes the OL look better - again, everything works in combination

[AllTimeFU]

Agreement on needed mobility. However, get the stopwatch out. Pass block is sufficient.