Iowa State December 1st

[DungeonRealm]

Taking Incarnate Word is an absolute joke. They were 3-2 in their last 5 games losing to the Southland #1 and #2. They lost to #1 by 27 points. They were clearly the Southland #3. Furman on the other hand was 6-1 their last 7 games and was clearly as good if not better than the other 2 they were tied with for first in the SoCon..
Total point difference between FU, WC and ETSU.
Furman +18
Wofford -7
ETSU -11
IMHO this "committee" goes strictly by the STATS and Coaches poll like they always have. We like to think they are analyzing and comparing teams like the NCCA basketball committee but that obviously doesn't happen. They are lazy. There is no way you can justify taking IW over FU or ISU etc.

Yep, the entire process is an absolute joke

[MNORM]

Taking Incarnate Word is an absolute joke. They were 3-2 in their last 5 games losing to the Southland #1 and #2. They lost to #1 by 27 points. They were clearly the Southland #3. Furman on the other hand was 6-1 their last 7 games and was clearly as good if not better than the other 2 they were tied with for first in the SoCon..
Total point difference between FU, WC and ETSU.
Furman +18
Wofford -7
ETSU -11
IMHO this "committee" goes strictly by the STATS and Coaches poll like they always have. We like to think they are analyzing and comparing teams like the NCCA basketball committee but that obviously doesn't happen. They are lazy. There is no way you can justify taking IW over FU or ISU etc.

You're partially correct. In the past, the committee used multiple sources (AGS, STATS, Nobowls etc). This year, they decided to rely on the Coaches Poll. The FACT that the new committee chairman is a Southland team AD (Central Ark) and three Southland teams were ranked in the Coaches Poll should raise some eyebrows about the decision.

Hopefully they will learn their lesson when Lamar and UIW get crushed this Saturday.

Back to the topic of Iowa State. The way I'm interpreting the situation is that the game with Iowa State will still be played in the event that UIW loses to Montana State in the first round. I believe UIW will get drilled by MSU....so don't get your hopes up for a road trip to Ames.

[DungeonRealm]

Taking Incarnate Word is an absolute joke. They were 3-2 in their last 5 games losing to the Southland #1 and #2. They lost to #1 by 27 points. They were clearly the Southland #3. Furman on the other hand was 6-1 their last 7 games and was clearly as good if not better than the other 2 they were tied with for first in the SoCon..
Total point difference between FU, WC and ETSU.
Furman +18
Wofford -7
ETSU -11
IMHO this "committee" goes strictly by the STATS and Coaches poll like they always have. We like to think they are analyzing and comparing teams like the NCCA basketball committee but that obviously doesn't happen. They are lazy. There is no way you can justify taking IW over FU or ISU etc.

You're partially correct. In the past, the committee used multiple sources (AGS, STATS, Nobowls etc). This year, they decided to rely on the Coaches Poll. The FACT that the new committee chairman is a Southland team AD (Central Ark) and three Southland teams were ranked in the Coaches Poll should raise some eyebrows about the decision.

Hopefully they will learn their lesson when Lamar and UIW get crushed this Saturday.

Back to the topic of Iowa State. The way I'm interpreting the situation is that the game with Iowa State will still be played in the event that UIW loses to Montana State in the first round. I believe UIW will get drilled by MSU....so don't get your hopes up for a road trip to Ames.

This is one of the most spot on observations of corruption by the UCA AD, a few days before selection Sunday he got the guidelines changed to favor this absurd coaches poll because it favors his Southland conference, that guy has no shame

[fupaladin01]

Drake snagged the Iowa State game. They will get the extra practice (though I’m not sure what for) and the paycheck. Drake. I see no reason it couldn’t have been us.

[Paul C]

Let me guess...."hey Iowa St, this is the Drake AD. Since we can bus over to Ames we'll play the game for a lot less than the teams that will have to fly"..... And then "hmmmm how can I spend that money on basketball......"

[cavedweller2]

My respect for Iowa St diminishes.

[apaladin]

Is this Drake's first ever FBS game? They are non-collectible and Iowa State. cannot count it towards bowl eligibility.

[mathprofhiker]

Is this Drake's first ever FBS game? They are non-collectible and Iowa State. cannot count it towards bowl eligibility.

i-OW-a State is already 6-4; they don't need the game for bowl eligibility. As somebody else said, the only reason they would "need" (as opposed to just want) this game would be to save the cost of refunding many thousands of tickets, so the warm body principal would seem to apply in terms of their opponent. A local opponent might even increase walk-up ticket sales, assuming tickets are still available, which they probably are.

Bottom line: I am disappointed we couldn't find a way to get an 11th game, but doing what Iowa State did makes total sense from their perspective.

[tim]

Hate the Drake. They screw up a lot of good plans.

[Affirm]

We should have sought out a game against Charlotte 49ers or FAU Owls. Those 2 play on this Saturday. 1 or both should be not going to a “bowl”.