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NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:46 pm
by FUBeAR

OK - sure - Highly-Paid Professional Athletes AKA Collegiate “Student Athletes” might become compromised in order by to ‘help their impoverished friend & classmate to pay his/her rent’ …or to also buy a matching companion Lambo for his/her sidepiece … and “miss a free throw” … or just shoot every time he gets the ball to hit his personal “over” …

But … what about “NIL” deals with incentive clauses? Or even ‘real’ NIL deals like where all Alabama students with a Bama ID get free Kool-Aid from McKinstry’s $5m/yr NIL sponsor, Kraft-Heinz, on Sunday - if Kool-Aid McKinstry returns a Punt for a TD on Saturday? Do the 39,683 Alabama students pay off the opponent’s Offense to kneel 3 times on each possession to give Kool-Aid more chances to quench their thirst?

If you’re old enough and responsible enough to capitalize on your Name, Image, and Likeness for, possibly, millions of dollars, or just to get paid-to-play at a similar compensation level, then you’re old enough and responsible enough to know whether or not to compromise yourself by getting yourself involved in ‘fixing’ outcomes (each prop bet is an outcome) of and/or within athletics contests in association with gambling. And, if you do & get caught, you should be prepared to face the consequences - YOLO -> FAFO

The ‘integrity’ car already drove over the cliff, Mr. Baker. Cleaning the windshield with a dirty squeegee ain’t gonna fix it now.

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Re: NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:32 pm
by FUBeAR
FUBeAR wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:46 pm
If you’re old enough and responsible enough to capitalize on your Name, Image, and Likeness for, possibly, millions of dollars, or just to get paid-to-play at a similar compensation level, then you’re old enough and responsible enough to know whether or not… -YOLO -> FAFO.
Um…maybe not…
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https://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-bul ... 20Athens.

AJC 3/27
GEORGIA BULLDOGS

Kirby Smart: Fast cars and college football players a growing issue


ATHENS — Georgia running back Trevor Etienne was driving a $140,000 Audi RS7 when he was pulled over at 1:50 a.m. Sunday for driving more than 80 mph on a two-lane road after a night of alleged drinking in downtown Athens….The Audi RS7 is…powered by a turbocharged 4.0-liter V8 engine and can accelerate from 0-to-60 mph in 3.3 seconds. It retails between $131,000-$151,000 depending on options.

Former Bulldog Jalen Carter was driving a 2021 Jeep Trackhawk with a 707-horsepower, V8 “Hellcat” engine that retails for $105,000 when police say he was racing…in the early morning hours…UGA staffer Chandler LeCroy and teammate Devin Willock, the driver and the occupant…of the car Carter was racing, died in a crash while driving 100 mph.

Including the DUI conviction of former safety Javon Bullard from an incident that occurred in September 2022, Georgia players are known to have been arrested 18 times for offenses involving excessive speeding and/or alcohol or drug consumption while behind the wheel of a vehicle.

Alabama freshman Tony Mitchell was accused of driving 141 mph to evade police who found a half-pound of marijuana in his vehicle after apprehending him.

A Tennessee defensive lineman was arrested in December for speeding and driving on a suspended license.

At Clemson, defensive tackle DeMonte Capehart was arrested Feb. 6 on a weapons and traffic charges. Two weeks later, wide receiver Noble Johnson was arrested and charged with reckless driving after his involvement in a car accident that sent three individuals involved to the hospital.

At the end of last month, former Clemson football players Frederick Davis II and Malcolm Greene settled a lawsuit against them for…racing their vehicles up to 115 mph and crashing into the truck of a mail carrier, who… suffered permanent injuries.


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It will be interesting to see what happens when enterprising plaintiffs’ attorneys in some of these and/or future tragedies go after wealthy donors who have contributed to collectives, the collectives themselves, and/or the operators of collectives as additionally named responsible parties for participating in structuring the circumstances that, ultimately, led to their clients’ damages.

Think they won’t? Think they won’t prevail? When you gonna invite FUBeAR over to see that rock you’ve been living under?

Re: NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:57 am
by Davemeister
FUBeAR on a roll!

Re: NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:12 pm
by sluggo
Jealousy sucks.
We got no money; but the world has changed.
Get over it.

Worry about some dude claiming he's a woman and beating your daughter's face off in MMA.

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Re: NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:49 pm
by FUBeAR
sluggo wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:12 pm
Jealousy sucks.
We got no money; but the world has changed.
Get over it.

Worry about some dude claiming he's a woman and beating your daughter's face off in MMA.

.
.
Little Miss FUBeAR already retired from MMA with an undefeated record, but you’re correct about that concern for other GirlDads.

But, you are mistaken, FUBeAR doesn’t begrudge any of these young athletes raking in that kwan. Reaching that conclusion requires you making assumptions that are not evidenced within any of FUBeAR’s observations.

OTOH…

1) FUBeAR abhors the level of hypocrisy that has been attained by the NCAA, its member institutions, and almost all non-athletes involved, in almost every way, with collegiate athletics in recent years. While always imbued with hypocrisy in measured amounts, it is now the core.

2) FUBeAR DOES advocate for young athletes, being paid as the adults that almost all of them are, to be held accountable as the adults that almost all of them are. Specifically, any financial transaction (which includes scholarships) should only be consummated with legal contracts requiring performance, terms, penalties, etc. For example, when Coaches (with contracts) are hired from school A to school B, school A is almost always due financial compensation for non-performance, as specified and agreed to in the contract. No good reason that highly compensated collegiate athletes shouldn’t have similar buy-out clauses in their contracts. Remember, most often, the source of payment is the hiring school - school B. Just one example. There are others.


FUBeAR does not, at all, like the direction that collegiate athletics has taken, but his displeasure has nothing, at all, to do with the financial position and/or the mobility of collegiate athletes. That’s just not the perspective from which his displeasure arises.

Re: NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Wed May 01, 2024 6:17 pm
by sluggo
FUBeAR wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 2:49 pm
sluggo wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:12 pm
Jealousy sucks.
We got no money; but the world has changed.
Get over it.

Worry about some dude claiming he's a woman and beating your daughter's face off in MMA.

.
.
Little Miss FUBeAR already retired from MMA with an undefeated record, but you’re correct about that concern for other GirlDads.

But, you are mistaken, FUBeAR doesn’t begrudge any of these young athletes raking in that kwan. Reaching that conclusion requires you making assumptions that are not evidenced within any of FUBeAR’s observations.

OTOH…

1) FUBeAR abhors the level of hypocrisy that has been attained by the NCAA, its member institutions, and almost all non-athletes involved, in almost every way, with collegiate athletics in recent years. While always imbued with hypocrisy in measured amounts, it is now the core.

2) FUBeAR DOES advocate for young athletes, being paid as the adults that almost all of them are, to be held accountable as the adults that almost all of them are. Specifically, any financial transaction (which includes scholarships) should only be consummated with legal contracts requiring performance, terms, penalties, etc. For example, when Coaches (with contracts) are hired from school A to school B, school A is almost always due financial compensation for non-performance, as specified and agreed to in the contract. No good reason that highly compensated collegiate athletes shouldn’t have similar buy-out clauses in their contracts. Remember, most often, the source of payment is the hiring school - school B. Just one example. There are others.


FUBeAR does not, at all, like the direction that collegiate athletics has taken, but his displeasure has nothing, at all, to do with the financial position and/or the mobility of collegiate athletes. That’s just not the perspective from which his displeasure arises.


I hear you; but it is what it is

[edit : removed Bootie like statement about Huff towards you] :lol:

I just see that the young people see a pathway, and I don't want to impede their travels.

Bros forever bro!

Re: NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2024 3:45 pm
by FUBeAR
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Re: NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Tue May 21, 2024 3:53 pm
by FUBeAR
FUBeAR wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:32 pm
FUBeAR wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:46 pm
If you’re old enough and responsible enough to capitalize on your Name, Image, and Likeness for, possibly, millions of dollars, or just to get paid-to-play at a similar compensation level, then you’re old enough and responsible enough to know whether or not… -YOLO -> FAFO.
Um…maybe not…
——————————————————————————-
https://www.ajc.com/sports/georgia-bul ... 20Athens.

AJC 3/27
GEORGIA BULLDOGS

Kirby Smart: Fast cars and college football players a growing issue


ATHENS — Georgia running back Trevor Etienne was driving a $140,000 Audi RS7 when he was pulled over at 1:50 a.m. Sunday for driving more than 80 mph on a two-lane road after a night of alleged drinking in downtown Athens….The Audi RS7 is…powered by a turbocharged 4.0-liter V8 engine and can accelerate from 0-to-60 mph in 3.3 seconds. It retails between $131,000-$151,000 depending on options.

Former Bulldog Jalen Carter was driving a 2021 Jeep Trackhawk with a 707-horsepower, V8 “Hellcat” engine that retails for $105,000 when police say he was racing…in the early morning hours…UGA staffer Chandler LeCroy and teammate Devin Willock, the driver and the occupant…of the car Carter was racing, died in a crash while driving 100 mph.

Including the DUI conviction of former safety Javon Bullard from an incident that occurred in September 2022, Georgia players are known to have been arrested 18 times for offenses involving excessive speeding and/or alcohol or drug consumption while behind the wheel of a vehicle.

Alabama freshman Tony Mitchell was accused of driving 141 mph to evade police who found a half-pound of marijuana in his vehicle after apprehending him.

A Tennessee defensive lineman was arrested in December for speeding and driving on a suspended license.

At Clemson, defensive tackle DeMonte Capehart was arrested Feb. 6 on a weapons and traffic charges. Two weeks later, wide receiver Noble Johnson was arrested and charged with reckless driving after his involvement in a car accident that sent three individuals involved to the hospital.

At the end of last month, former Clemson football players Frederick Davis II and Malcolm Greene settled a lawsuit against them for…racing their vehicles up to 115 mph and crashing into the truck of a mail carrier, who… suffered permanent injuries.


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It will be interesting to see what happens when enterprising plaintiffs’ attorneys in some of these and/or future tragedies go after wealthy donors who have contributed to collectives, the collectives themselves, and/or the operators of collectives as additionally named responsible parties for participating in structuring the circumstances that, ultimately, led to their clients’ damages.

Think they won’t? Think they won’t prevail? When you gonna invite FUBeAR over to see that rock you’ve been living under?
HERE THEY COME!


https://www.cbssports.com/college-foot ... -nil-deal/
Georgia QB Jaden Rashada sues Florida coach Billy Napier, among others, over botched $13.85M NIL deal

Also named in the bombshell suit are a former Gators football staffer as well as a prominent booster

"Jaden's miserable experience reveals, in stark and dramatic detail, what can happen to young student-athletes when wealthy, win-at-all-cost alumni insert themselves into college football's recruiting process," the lawsuit says.

So very ironic.

It’s clear that the solution to prevent these young student-athletes from having such miserable experiences is to remove all alumni (and other donors) from contributing their wealth into college football recruiting processes.

Re: NCAA - Prop Bets BAD! Threat to Integrity of College Athletics

PostPosted:Wed May 22, 2024 11:25 am
by Stumpy
The most ****-up thing about that, in a vast ocean of ****, is that any booster group would consider paying that kind of scratch for a high school athlete. Sure, he might be really good. He might also suck at the college level.

Also, "It claims that Castro-Walker threatened Rashada that if he did not sign, Napier might pull his scholarship offer. "

Excuse me, but if you're being paid multiple millions to come play football, why would the potential withholding of a scholarship worth (I looked it up) $28,659 even come into the equation?