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Article summarizing one view of where things stand

PostPosted:Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:21 pm
by Affirm
Article summarizing one view of where things stand
Most of you already know a lot about this. Nevertheless, this current article may be of interest.
Will Furman's games against the likes of Mississippi, Tennessee, Clemson, South Carolina be replaced by occasional games against the likes of Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Kennesaw State, Jacksonville State, UAB, ECU, James Madison, Marshall; or will those kinds of FBS programs shun playing FCS programs?
Will Furman's football future games be entirely against FCS teams and occasional DII teams? What will be the impact upon all Furman Athletics, not just football, and not just basketball as well?
And who are going to be the last teams in to make the total of 70?
Beyond the 68 including Notre Dame (1) and the current teams in the SEC (16), Big Ten (18), ACC (17), and Big 12 (16), who will be included in the 70?
Will Army, Navy, Air Force somehow be included?
Who, if any will be kicked out of the above 68, and who will be added not in the present 68 to make 70?
Is the number 70 considered to be just a close approximation?
Super Conferences
FROM “INSIDE HIGHER EDUCATION”
October 09, 2024
A ‘Super League’ for Big-Time College Sports?
The four major football-playing conferences could join forces in a league backed by private equity, a news report suggests.
By Doug Lederman
The continuing turmoil in big-time college athletics—driven by the decline of amateurism and players’ success in winning the right to be compensated, virtually nonstop conference realignment that has blown up traditional rivalries in the chase for big television payouts, and doubts about the National Collegiate Athletic Association’s viability—could ultimately lead in many directions.
More intervention from Congress. Athletes who are paid directly by colleges and possibly even treated as employees. Ever-greater separation of the haves from the have-nots.
Which of these come to pass is far from certain, but the latter is likeliest. And a news report from Yahoo Sports on Tuesday suggests that one possible scenario is gaining steam: the creation of a 70-team “super league” that would incorporate football programs from the four existing “power conferences” (the Atlantic Coast, Big Ten, Big 12 and Southeastern) under a common umbrella.
The new league, pitched by a private equity firm made up of former Disney executives, would be fueled by private capital and distance itself more fully from the other 60-some colleges that compete in the Football Bowl Subdivision, in ways that could be politically contentious and further disrupt existing relationships between their universities.
The Yahoo Sports article, which is based on interviews with dozens of college sports officials, comes as representatives of the 36 universities in the Big Ten and Southeastern Conferences are prepared to meet this week in Nashville, Tenn., to discuss how the two leagues might cooperate. The two conferences, which dominate the top tier of college football, are certain to be at the center of any effort to refashion big-time athletics.
The Yahoo Sports article describes the Big Ten–Southeastern meeting as having been driven in part by the emergence of the super league idea, which it says is nicknamed “Project Rudy,” after the popular 1993 sports movie Rudy.
Yahoo Sports says the idea, reportedly pitched by Smash Capital, a private equity firm, is designed to significantly increase the value of the media revenues available to its 70 would-be member universities by consolidating their negotiating power and having them compete only against one another, eliminating the games most of them play against the other teams in the Football Bowl Subdivision and the Football Championship Subdivision.
That restriction would drive up the television value of those games—and could drive a significantly larger wedge between the universities with teams in the super league and scores of other institutions that play basketball and other sports in the NCAA’s Division I.
According to the Yahoo Sports article, more than two dozen athletics directors and conference officials have heard presentations from the project’s representatives, who reportedly include Jack Swarbrick, the former University of Notre Dame athletics director who formerly sat on the NCAA’s college football playoff committee.
The article includes many details from the PowerPoint presentation that Project Rudy officials have made, including that they would infuse “$5.3 billion in private capital—borrowed from future media revenues … to provide schools immediate cash during a three-year transition period, helping them buy out non-power opponents and supplementing their annual television distribution.”
The Yahoo article notes that the super league arrangement is designed to increase the television revenues available to participating institutions by $25 million over 12 years—roughly the amount that big-time sports–playing universities are expected to have to pay to athletes annually to satisfy the terms of the name, image and likeness settlement preliminarily approved by a federal judge Monday.
Project Rudy isn’t the only super conference being discussed. A group called College Sports Tomorrow reportedly floated a roughly similar idea last spring, and articles in The Wall Street Journal last week and a Chronicle of Higher Education op-ed by two university leaders, West Virginia University’s E. Gordon Gee and Syracuse University’s Kent Syverud, discussed that plan.
A huge number of potential impediments remain to a potential super league, including the need for congressional legislation to overcome possible antitrust problems with joint negotiation of TV rights, and the Big Ten and Southeastern Conferences being willing to give up some of their current advantages over their peers.
But the status quo is untenable for the long term, which is why conversations like this are heating up.

Re: Article summarizing one view of where things stand

PostPosted:Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:50 am
by Affirm
I truly am interested in comments about the 70 number and what schools (if any) might be “thrown out” of the current 68 from ACC, SEC, BIG 12, BIG TEN, and what schools (if any) are more likely to be added to get to the number 70 or whatever that total is going to be.
I realize this is not completely on the topic of Furman Football, but this thread IS in the FBS Football section of UFFP.
Any thoughts?
I’ve not taken the time to notice who’s now in BIG 12, but feel like I pretty well know the other 3 conferences’ make-up.
So I’m wondering about various schools such as Memphis, Tulane, USF, Cincinnati (OOPS - CORRECTION - am just now reminded the Bearcats have been Big 12 members for longer than 3 years!), UCONN, Washington State, Oregon State, USMA, USNA, USAFA, and others being potentially in “the 70”; and specifically who, if any, of all the possibilities, are going to have the better chances of getting into “the 70”.
Who would be the last several to be added to make up 70?
Who would be the more likely to be “expelled” from “the 68”?

Re: Article summarizing one view of where things stand

PostPosted:Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:50 pm
by Affirm
I’ve edited to correct my error about Cincinnati, who has been Big 12 for years.
Still looking for comments about whether and how this super league will be 70, instead of the present 68.
My present guess is the final 2 will be:
Memphis
Tulane
Or else may be:
Washington State
Oregon State.
And I do not believe any current members of ACC, SEC, BIG 12, BIG TEN will be excluded.
Still, I’m curious where the “70” (instead of 68) comes from anyway.
Is 70 just an approximation, or just 68 rounded up to “roughly 70”?
Is some special deal in the works for Army and Navy, with some relation to the fact that their annual Army-Navy game is a big deal?
OK.
Affirm is NOT oblivious to what is most important.
Go Furman! Beat Chattanooga!

Re: Article summarizing one view of where things stand

PostPosted:Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:22 am
by apaladin
Cincinnati joined the Big 12 July 1, 2023, so only in their 2nd season.

Re: Article summarizing one view of where things stand

PostPosted:Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:43 pm
by sluggo
Affirm wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:21 pm
Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, Georgia State, Kennesaw State, Jacksonville State, UAB, ECU, James Madison, Marshall; or will those kinds of FBS programs shun playing FCS programs?
Every team listed except UAB were FCS teams before.
4 of them were in the SoCon before (ECU 1965-1976 though)
This all happened before NIL deals, ESPN+ deals or transfer portals.
Don't know if these teams would Shun Furman; but probably not play FU in Paladin Stadium.