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Interesting article. Something similar to this scenario is going to happe, sooner than later.
http://www.college-sports-journal.com/r ... ed-system/

Fun article, thanks. I think he’s onto something. I’d consider one more tweak.
Right now I think the scholarship limits go
36-63-85. He’s suggesting adding a level so it’s 36-63-73-85. I’d go more like 36-55-70-85. That would greatly drop the burden on FCS schools. Or if they made it easier to play DII football and DI basketball, FB programs would survive by dropping down. It just seems FCS is in a bind because it’s so expensive and the crowds are so small.

The other thing that bugs me is conferences designating themselves the P5’s and then starting to believe it means something. Is the PAC12 really a P5? How are they better than the AAC? In his models he mostly adds to the P5’s rather than culling the weak sisters.

This is goofy & misses the real point.

The FUBeAR Plan, where P5 Football & Basketball Teams become Corporations affiliated with (including BoD Seats for Univ & Univ Ath Leaders) / licensed by Universities, is where we are headed. Players are employees of these corporations & their benefits plans include tuition reimbursement at their affiliated school.

How the remaining G5 Football & Basketball Teams & FCS Football are organized / conduct championships is TBD.

FUBeAR wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:15 pm

This is goofy & misses the real point.

The FUBeAR Plan, where P5 Football & Basketball Teams become Corporations affiliated with (including BoD Seats for Univ & Univ Ath Leaders) / licensed by Universities, is where we are headed. Players are employees of these corporations & their benefits plans include tuition reimbursement at their affiliated school.

How the remaining G5 Football & Basketball Teams & FCS Football are organized / conduct championships is TBD.

I think this is spot on and after a bit of hand wringing, I think we will all come to live with it. Because frankly it's better than not having college football at all. In this model, would you anticipate players being able to opt in or out of the school part similar to employees deciding if they want to pay for supplemental life insurance and other benefits?

fufanatic wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:48 pm

FUBeAR wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:15 pm

This is goofy & misses the real point.

The FUBeAR Plan, where P5 Football & Basketball Teams become Corporations affiliated with (including BoD Seats for Univ & Univ Ath Leaders) / licensed by Universities, is where we are headed. Players are employees of these corporations & their benefits plans include tuition reimbursement at their affiliated school.

How the remaining G5 Football & Basketball Teams & FCS Football are organized / conduct championships is TBD.

I think this is spot on and after a bit of hand wringing, I think we will all come to live with it. Because frankly it's better than not having college football at all. In this model, would you anticipate players being able to opt in or out of the school part similar to employees deciding if they want to pay for supplemental life insurance and other benefits?

Absolutely - along with other Educational options - Trade Schools / Apprenticeships, etc.

The P5 can start their own governing body to ensure that the Corporate Bylaws of each Team are crafted & regularly updated to provide for fair competition & address such matters as warranted...or maybe, they can decide to let the NCAA be their governance board...if they want to...but only to audit the affiliated firms. Enforcement / Penalties will be determined via a rotating representative council populated by X number of Board Members of the Teams/Companies.

Haven’t worked out all of the details of Recruiting rules / Salary Caps yet, but that can be be sorted out by folks way smarter than FUBeAR.

An interesting aspect will be to see how these kids / employees feel about the non-compete agreements they will have to sign once they become employees. Of course those have to be reasonable and will be different in each state, but, GENERALLY, as long as they are not overly broad by geography or ‘industry’ or time, they are legally enforceable. BTW...Don’t tell me they’re not because you know a guy that got out of his that one time....other than O-Line Play, FUBeAR knows a little something about practical application of Employment Law...and has lost a BUKU of Kwan over the past 30 years because of enforceable non-compete agreements. And, with Direct Competitors...say, in the same Conference, or the same ‘market’ say, Georgia & Georgia Tech...those can be called out, specifically, in Non-Competes.

A lot to work out, but that’s the way it needs to go - get all of the hypocrisy out of these Educational Institutions & keep the Alums happy cheering for ‘their laundry,’ and keep the revenue tap turned on to the school via licensing and/or a revenue/profit sharing quarterly ‘donation’ written into the corporate bylaws. Get the kids an education that suits them - they can learn to be Aerospace Engineers or skilled Architectural Draftsmen...and let them get ‘paid’...if they are worthy of that in the free market.

If they opt out of the school part, actual classes and grades and such, they would still get a degree, right? Limiting degrees to only those who go to school seems pretty heavy handed.

Would there be any eligibility requirements for freshmen? Obviously requiring a High School Diploma or GED would be pretty over the top, but what about basic literacy? I see no point in it. We had illiterate guys operating reactors at SRS for 40 years before anybody noticed. We want to see the best athletes on the field.

Finally, in the education-optional college football model, is there any logic to limiting eligibility to 4 years? Why not let them play as long as they can and then move on educated or not but with degree in hand?

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:14 am

If they opt out of the school part, actual classes and grades and such, they would still get a degree, right? Limiting degrees to only those who go to school seems pretty heavy handed.

Would there be any eligibility requirements for freshmen? Obviously requiring a High School Diploma or GED would be pretty over the top, but what about basic literacy? I see no point in it. We had illiterate guys operating reactors at SRS for 40 years before anybody noticed. We want to see the best athletes on the field.

Finally, in the education-optional college football model, is there any logic to limiting eligibility to 4 years? Why not let them play as long as they can and then move on educated or not but with degree in hand?

Years of eligibility is an interesting question in this model.

Probably some solid adaptability from the way MiLB is structured, This FAQ could probably be adapted to answer a lot of questions about the FUBeAR Plan - https://www.milb.com/about/faqs-business#23

They use 7 years as length of 1st contract - so..there’s a starting point for the discussion. If a kid ain’t ready for the NFL by the times he’s 25, he probably ain’t gonna he ready ever...and he’s probably getting toward being damaged goods...

Also - BTW - I heard today that using a period “.” when writing to/for young people is considered aggressive & triggering to them. So yeah...no education requirements at all & sure, they can get a degree from the P5’s Secondary ‘blanket’ (covers them all) School - Life Skills University - 3 year program. No admissions req’d / no pre-req’s

We are now living in a Post-Literate Society.

#GetUrMindRight